Guest Adriano1 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Am I the only one feeling Mandriva's doing too many things at once at this point? Or perhaps, that they're not focusing on improving their deficiencies? I mean, the conectiva merger, the changes in distribution (going from once every 6 months to once a year, etc), etc... I feel like they might be going back to where they were a few years ago. Somehow they're back, I feel, to talking too much. Maybe it's the engineer geek in me, but I feel they should concentrate on improving the distro and the support for it... Of course, that doesn't make as much publicity impact as merging with Conectiva, but in the long run it would obviously be better. Or maybe I'm wrong and they are addressing such issues. Who knows. If they did, I wouldn't want them wasting their time and focus on telling me, but then I wouldn't know, and _then_ I'd be doing what I do now. In Spanish: "No hay una que me venga bien"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 if you ask me, i do have the feeling that they know exactly what they are doing. merging with conectiva is part one, adding conectivas strengths to mandrake is part two and changing the release cycle give me the impression that they are much more willing to create a rock stable distro than ever before. i think some instabilities that some people complained about (i never had any serious ones) could not be addressed to in detail because of the tight schedule. if you have to throw out a new distro every six months, then you somehow lack the time and manpower to remove all bugs. now with the manpower of conectiva added and the additional time for every distro, the system will have a higher quality value imho. and it will make support services easier for them, especially in the business area. sounds like a real masterplan to me. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I agree with arctic here. It seems more like a thought out plan than chaotic action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I think the management of Mandrakesoft knows what they are doing. A company doesn't just merge with another just after they went into black bookkeeping wise. I think they realize that making a stable distro will be more important than going cutting edge. A stable distro that doesn't cost an arm and a leg will be more useful to a small to middle sized businesses (where I think the new Mandrivasoft is aiming right now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Besides, to all the people worried about 'cutting edge', nobody prohibits you to keep your os cutting edge. I have Gimp-2.2, lates xorg, and KDE 3.4 . How much more cutting edge you want to be? And this is on 10.1 OE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Well, I do acknowledge that a distro a year should make for a more stable release. Plus, writing from 10.2 rc2 and not noticing problems yet makes me feel better about this. I'll have to see how this turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I had to change back to 10.1 from rc2 due to the kernel not supporting my VMware (the other way around actually) and I was afraid to run the new mdk on an older kernel than it was designed for. I need a stable system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I've just started an urpmi --auto --auto-select on cooker... I hope I survive it :-) Seriously, I like this distro. It's been my first and my best distro, holding my hand through so many things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 We're ANNOUNCING lots of things at once, not DOING lots of things at once :). We merged with Conectiva last month. The name change is happening now. We're moving to an annual release cycle some time after this fall. It's all in the art of PR ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Yes, it does make Mandriva look like an enterprising firm. Still, as I said above, if this results in more stability for the distro, I'll be _extremely_ happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeDubb Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Well, other than the horrible name, I think mandriva is realy heading the right way. And anual release cycle 'should' mean more stable releases. Look how often Debian has an official stable release. We're at what, 3 years now? Debian is a rock. It's an outdated rock, but a rock none the less. I am nervous about the addition of tech from conectiva. I think it's a good thing, but I'm nervous. It shows that the folks at mandriva are smart enough to know that there is always room to improve and taking help from another distro (even if you have to buy-out that distro) can make your distro better. It's a good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I'm nervous about the technical side of it. Anyone has a link where that apt-rpm is reviewed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 apt for rpm has been used by fedora-users for a very long time and yoper uses it as default packaging system since over two years now. it is pretty stable and solves dependencies quite well, although it is still inferior to the apt-get for debian packages imho. (rpms seem to be somehow more "tricky" as debs...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarian Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Since I have never used apt-rpm, my question to you -> is it better than urpmi? Is there any good resource where package managers are compared? (don't google, only if you know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 Since I have never used apt-rpm, my question to you -> is it better than urpmi? hard to tell... it is... different. it is a bit like asking: which potatoes are better? hard or soft-cooking ones? ;) Is there any good resource where package managers are compared?(don't google, only if you know) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no idea.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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