ac_dispatcher Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Members here that run Gentoo do you use genkernel or not? I do at times just cause Im lazy. If you are to reply with a "Genkernel bad" comment please tell why you think its bad. That being said I have a working .config file that I use (one stable one for new stuff or trial/test kernel) my genkernel command looks like this: #genkernel --clean --mrproper --install --no-mountboot --kernel-config=/config2.6.8-test --udev --bootsplash --bootloader=grub all >>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise I compile like this: #make clean #make mrproper #make xconfig #make && make modules_install && make install #mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.8 2.6.8 I know there is a few other ways of compiling a kernel (command wise). but how is one better than the other? I can see if you use genkernel with a default .config but not with your own .config file. btw: I just switched to love-sources and it rocks Good Gentoo site I found HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peep Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 I've only been a gentoo user for about 2 days now and it's good to see there are still some gentoo users around :lol:. It was looking like everyone had left for arch. I've done two installs so far, one genkernel and one not. Can't really comment on the pros/cons yet, both were very easy. Thanks for the wiki link, it looks helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 I don't have a prolbem using it, I'll do either. I'm past the point of learning how to compile a kernel ;-) genkernel does work, so what could be bad. Please don't use the LAME comment cause you learn more, (already discussed I can't learn anymore with the kernel) P.S. Loves good you should try Nitro's too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Oh, other than the obvious gentoo links, here are some more good ones: http://gentoo-portage.com/ http://www.breakmygentoo.net/ http://linuxreviews.org/gentoo/ http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page <--You already named it. http://gentoouser.org/ http://www.karkomaonline.com/index.php?topic=GentooLinux http://simplylinux.punted.net/ConfiguringGentoo2004.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystified Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 I use mm-sources. My first install was with genkernel and it was a bust but I think there were other factors involved so I can't blaim it on the kernel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJ Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 I don't use genkernel. Mainly because i aleady know exactly what i need to configure into my kernel and how to install it easily (even have a little script to do it for me), but also because the one time I used genkernel it took muuucchhh longer to build and install the kernel than it would manually plus it didn't even install right. Although to be fair, when I did try genkernel it was still very early in development, so I don't really know it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac_dispatcher Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 cybrjackle - Thanks for the links I didn't have a few of those. When I switch from dev-sources 2.6.8 to love-sources (2.6.8) it was the first time I could see a improvement in speed. Genkernel has improved by leaps and bounds in the past year so so. Hey HJ how about sharing the script? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSe Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 (edited) genkernel sucks and I wouldn't recommend using it. I compiled my own kernel once, and now I simply import my .config file and recompile when I upgrade. What could be simpler than that. I tried genkernel many times - it breaks things and produces ugly kernels. Do it the way god intended: roll your own. Edited August 25, 2004 by SoulSe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac_dispatcher Posted August 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Ugly kernel? Would that be like a Uma Thurman ugly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSe Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Ugly kernel? Would that be like a Uma Thurman ugly? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No - Windows ugly... * SoulSe hides in the corner * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunni Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I tried genkernel once and hated it. I agree with Soulse that the kernels produced are ugly (although I struggle to put into words exactly what that means... Perhaps Uma Therman ugly ;-) ) Also, I found that it took ages to boot. Since one of the advantages of gentoo for me was boot time (although arch is quicker still) I quickly ditched it and rolled my own. As Soulse says, once you have your own .config - it's not exactly hard to recompile a new kernel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Here is my normal approach, if its a new box ex. my new laptop, I used genkernel on it so I don't have to figure out all the hdw right away. After that, once I have the system up and running I start filtering through the kernel and removing bloated junk and then as SoulSe pointed out, keep using my .config and just make oldconfig on all new kernels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peep Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Ok, I tried using genkernel to get all the fancy stuff working on my laptop and it simply WILL NOT work from within an existing install (no loop,etc). Lots of threads on other boards, including posts by SoulSe and maybe others here :) I'll definitely steer clear of genkernel from now on. Trial and error with menuconfig seems much safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peep Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 ok, i'm going to reply to myself to dump on genkernel for the second time today. Genkernel apparently also doesn't install the necessary options to run shorewall, which seems like it'd be a no-brainer to include. who knows why it's missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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