jlc Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 I'm not sure how to really label the problem, but here is what is going on. My main box is haveing a problem with shutdowns. When i shut the box down to do anything, it wont come backup unless i clear the CMOS. Here is the hardware: Dual Xeon 2.8 GHz 1GB DDR pc2100 Nvidia GeForce FX 5700 ultra Audigy 2 ZS w/ firewire & ipod Zaurus usb pocket pc ati tv all in wonder 200GB segate hd tyan i7505 (S2668) mobo w/ 7 fans to keep the procs cool. 550 Watt power supply Any thoughts on why this beast keeps needing to clear CMOS before it will boot backup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 it wont come backup unless i clear the CMOS. That sounds like what happens when one over overclocks which tells me it's not liking what its reading from either the processor or chipset, and possibly ram I guess. Me no hardware expert but isn't this the box, or onee of, that you overclock? :unsure: Something toasted from it? Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzatch Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Check the battery. Its a quick and simple fix if it is the battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 tyan i7505 (S2668) mobo w/ 7 fans to keep the procs cool. couldnt be overheating could it? have a look through the BIOS, fiddle there, you might find somethin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 it wont come backup unless i clear the CMOS. That sounds like what happens when one over overclocks which tells me it's not liking what its reading from either the processor or chipset, and possibly ram I guess. Me no hardware expert but isn't this the box, or onee of, that you overclock? :unsure: Something toasted from it? Bummer sounds likely to me, it might just be the bios settings for the memory speed on auto or something being a bit over zealous....(i.e. its overclocking itself, perhaps the memory bus ??) I also got this with a power problem, it would not supply the CPU enough power during boot and then set it back to its failsafe.... I had to then to go into bios and clear cmos... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Thx for all the suggestions, i'll look through the BIOS and make sure enverything is set correctly. This is a week old board, but I guess the battery could be bad. I'm not overclocking this box thats a different one! :lol: I can reboot just fine, system will come back up, but if i shutdown for any amount of time it wont come up w/out clearing CMOS As far as heat, they are Xeon's so they run around 60-70 Celsius, they are hot puppys to begin with. I did a little re-engineering on the heat sinks and added two more fans on the sides of the heat sinks in a push-pull fashion to keep them a little cooler. Currently i have 7 fans in the box along w/ 2 on the power supply pushing in, but I might add some more to the front of the case to drag in some more and maybe get a cooler for the board chip. These things belong to the there so hot! :o Nice and fast though, w/ dual Xeon's and HyperThreading my box appears as it is a 4 proc system! B) gentoo compile times are a cake walk, I compiled Gnome-2.6 one day as i was playing enemy-territroy for hours, didn't feel a slow down in the game at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeDubb Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 If you're running 7fans, a 2.8g cpu and presumably a big video card, you're probably pulling a lot of power. How big is your power supply? That can cause all sorts of mysterious problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 I'm not overclocking this box thats a different one! Maybe not deliberatly,,, my mobo has different 'settings' likle agressive/optimum etc which tend to let different busses determine their own speed. Ive found sometimes they make an error perhaps becuase the RAM was capable of being run faster than it states but not reliably ... It also does things like let other timing be more or less agressive but Im not there now.... so what I mean is try setting some of these by hand instead of auto.... else it might overclock itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streeter Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Might sound daft, but as it's a new board - has it got a cmos battery jumper? It is set? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 550 power supply cat /proc/cpu shows 4 cpu's as 2800 CMOS is set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 so what was the fix? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Nothing yet :unsure: I was thinking of calling Tyan support at some point and ask them, now that i think of it, maybe there is a BIOS update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopy Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Hope you figure this out cause I think I may be having a similiar issue. My problem is my machine doesn't want to boot after being shut-down for a while. It will freeze at the strangest places. Like soon as the KDE splash screen is about to finish its thing... OR during log-in (type in username... press enter... freeze). I just keep rebooting till it boots... and then it all seems good. Seemed to begin after updating kernel in Mandrake 10 official. I have been looking at any possible connection with kernel 2.6.8-13 (???latest in MDK rpm format), NVIDIA and my Soyo K7VTA Pro w/ a VIA KT 133A chipset (there is something mentioned in the nvidia readme about AGP problems and this chipset) Wondering about your chipset ? Maybe I should check my cmos battery too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 http://www.tyan.com/support/html/b_s2668.html I'll have to reboot to see what my BIOS is, but none of these look like fixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streeter Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Scoopy - your problem sounds like it may be thermal. If it won't boot when cold, but does after trying for a while - that would give something time to warm up (and expand/align correctly) perhaps?? I am thinking chip/connector seating and possibly even hard drive. You could test this by not keep rebooting, just turn on and leave it for 10 minutes or so, then reboot. Just a thought.. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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