Windoze VS Linux

[Guest anon]

http://www.davefancella.com/index.php?mode...x%20-%20Install

[iphitus]

Interesting I guess, but the bodgy hardware lost them both point on sound and the lack of Mail client was kinda dissappointing on mandrakes behalf

[arthur]

Just a question to any 10.0 OE user: are the bugs gone? like that mouse pointer bug in RPMDrake?

 

Updating CE fixed a few bugs namely the KDE PIM crashes...now, is CE frozen to OE or will it become like cooker, moving on and staying unstable?

 

This is Mandrake's big chance to bite off a big chunk of M$ users, I hope they do it right. Great article btw

[Urza9814]

What they fail to mention is that I bet any idiot user could figure out how to insall a mail client on MDK, while fixing the net on Windoze might be a bit harder.

[kmc77]

What they fail to mention is that I bet any idiot user could figure out how to insall a mail client on MDK

 

:D I did, so it must be easy

[Mandriva-user]

B) Hohoho Not everybody

   What they fail to mention is that I bet any idiot user could figure out how to insall a mail client on MDK   

and kmc77 special the people is new on linux they have hard time to figure out all the new stuff on linux.I have a family member he just started not long time ago he get few exp. and he told me that winlows is junkif you know linux very well it could be a powerfull OS,he told me if you know linux like

anon is piece of cake.

For sure Anon.... has 1 or 2 problems that he can figure out what is going on but some people they can`t figure out and they ask some one. :D

Have nice day.

 

Mandrake-user

Edited April 27, 2004 by Mandrake-user

[kmc77]

mandrake-user, did you just call me "special", cause where I come from, them's fightin words..... :D

 

Just messing around. I think I got your point, but when I first read your post, I thought, "mandrake is saying that I ride the short bus" then I realized what you said, and had to laugh at myself

Edited April 27, 2004 by kmc77

[Darkelve]

I just want to chime in for a minute here.

 

Today I erased Linspire 4.5 from my PC (hardware blues, waiting to see if 5.0 can fix that) and re-installed Mandrake 10.0 Community.

 

And then I went exploring. And I noticed improvements in usability, simple logic, in speed and responsiveness, ... about EVERYWHERE I went!

 

E.g.

 

- The menu structure is a piece of art; everything is laid out cleanly and logically, when you want to find something it is hard to miss it! And the 'What do you want to do' menu has been made into a very powerful tool for people that want to explore the possibilities of their PC. This fact alone allows people to benefit MORE from their system than you could do now in WinXP, IMHO. At first I thought it was pretty stupid, afterwards I thought it is interesting but lacks usability, now it rocks!

 

- Fonts on the desktop are displayed with a shadow now, just like WinXP.

- All the available options in KDE have been thouroughly 'cleaned'. The way it is done now makes more sense than previous versions

- the English descriptions in menu's, dialog boxes, ... actually are DESCRIPTIVE.

- a lot more polish and consistency...

 

I think this is for a large part thanks to KDE, but Mandrake also did its part. First I was hopeful about Mdk's/Linux' future, but now I am confident! ;)

[banjo]

<rant>

It is a myth that fnWindoze is easier to deal with than

Linux. For a year now we have had a Mandy 9.1 box sitting

right next to a Dell running Win98SE.

 

With four family members of varying levels of computer skills,

we all use the two on and off. By far the most screams come

from folks on the Dell. Since the Linux just *works*, it

is far easier to deal with than the fnWindoze, which freezes

and crashes and corrupts things randomly all the time.

 

I don't understand the need for people to demand their

right to remain ignorant of the system they are using, and

still be able to use it trouble-free. That makes no sense.

 

A little bit of up-front study will not hurt anyone, and that is all

it really takes to set up a Linux computer to run the

normal email and surfing apps.

 

The fnWindoze nightmare goes on forever.

</rant>

 

Linux rocks!

Banjo

(_)=='=~

[Darkelve]

I don't understand the need for people to demand their

right to remain ignorant of the system they are using, and

still be able to use it trouble-free. That makes no sense.

That is because they are told, promised and assured by people selling these Windoze things they will be able to do just that.

 

That said, people should make an effort do learn some 'good practices', but it does not have to be brain surgery either!

 

Like now I'm setting up my Nvidia drivers for Mandrake 10:

 

1. discovering I have to install those drivers

2. Looking for them and finding them on Nvidia website

3. Failure-> I do not have kernel source

4. Downloading the kernel source from a Mandrake mirror

5. 'Installing' the source RPM

6. Running the shell script

7. Editing the XF86-Config4 file

8. Keep my fingers crossed.

 

 

I know there are easier ways to do this (preconfigured in the PowerPack), but that's just my point. It's not a crime to provide these 'easier' ways either.

 

 

By the way, is the Kernel source for Mdk 10 CE/2.6 on this board's FTP server?

Edited April 30, 2004 by Darkelve

[banjo]

I installed my Mandy 9.1 onto a virgin disk.

 

I just followed the directions and chose lots of the

defaults. It took one half hour.

 

After a couple of hours, I had all four user accounts

up and configured to surf the web and do email.

 

All the apps I really needed were installed in the

system install. I have found that the Linux apps in

many cases are *superior* to what I was using on

the fnWiindoze box.

 

Since May of last year, we have had zero (0) system

crashes on the Linux computer. We have about three

crashes daily on the Win98 system.

 

fnWindoze cannot compete with that ease and convenience,

and the fnWindoze end product is junk.

 

It is amazing to me that the new Linux distros are not

making more headway on the home desktop.

 

Banjo

(_)=='=~

[bvc]

cracks me up when ppl compare a 2004 OS to a 1998 OS

 

:bvc:

[banjo]

Ya, well it isn't just Win98. XP is just as bad.

 

I know some folks who just got XP and are furious

at all the down time from the Gate's invasions over

the internet. "Um, excuse me for a couple of hours

while I download megabytes of security patches without

asking"

 

I still think that Linux is a better deal.

 

:D

 

Banjo

(_)=='=~

[Darkelve]

I know some folks who just got XP and are furious

at all the down time from the Gate's invasions over

the internet. "Um, excuse me for a couple of hours

while I download megabytes of security patches without

asking"

:D :D :D

[Urza9814]

I have XP...and 98...98 is actually a halfway decent OS IMHO. Sure, it crashes 3 times a day when not in use, but still, as far as windoze goes, it's damned good! 95 wasn't bad either...3.1 was cool, what I remember of it at least...and since I'm only 13, that ain't much :P

Mandrake 9.2 tops 'em all though...even Mandrake 10.0...10.0 goes so slow on this comp, it literally will take over 10 minutes to open up mozilla, when there's nothing else running! 9.2 will actually run a good speed. Still a little slow, but a good speed.