bvc Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 The bottom line is that if your have probs w/ nvidia it's not because it's a beta distro. That just doesn't make any sense. I just installed nvidia again on yet another new install of beta2 (I got a new 120gb hd) w/ no probs at all, again. NVIDIA IS NOT distro specific. It means what it says. Put the link ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux...6/Mandrake/RPMS into the Media Manager as a new ftp source. rpmdrake will take care of deps so once the source is added search in rpmdrake+ for kernel, find the new kernel and go to town. If it fails to get udev, module-init-tools, and hotplug pick'm yourself. Also as I said above initscripts is a good idea as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Ok bvc, the bit about adding the ftp source - I figure that I can do that. the second part, where you say "If it fails to get udev, module-init-tools, and hotplug pick'm yourself. Also as I said above initscripts is a good idea as well." is what I don't quite follow. you'll have to forgive me if my questions seem vague/stupid/both, I've not done any of this kernel stuff before. I also still don't understand the difference between "kernel, kernel-BOOT and kernel-sources"? many thanks regards John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 (edited) just get the kernel. about individually picking udev, module-init tools and hotplug do that ONLY if it fails to get them. if it does you'll be back here anyway... initscripts - initialization scripts...I didn't use them, still ok. Edited February 9, 2004 by arthur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchNachos Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 (edited) Quick question before I do this. I notice that the FTP of the link on the first post is French. ( ftp://whatever.fr ) I'm not exactly french myself... so would it matter if I just downloaded the newest Kernel from http://kernel.org -- and still used that URL provided? EDIT -- Add that same link to your Software Media Manager under Configuration >> Packaging What's the SMM? Configuration >> Packaging? The only thing I know of remotely close to that would be the Software Sources Manager in the MDK CC. Then from there add a HTTP or FTP source path, naming your path, but what is "relative path to synthesis/hdlist" ??? Edited February 9, 2004 by RanchNachos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 initscripts - initialization scripts...I didn't use them, still ok. ok? sure. But if you don't have the 2.6 compat initscrips then udev and sysfs aren't being used unless you manually edited the scripts as in the links I provided. Either way....same thing. Do ya see sysfs and udev at boot? Then you know if you have the new initscripts. RanchNachos, kernels at kernel.org are vanilla and in tar or bunzip2 format. Won't do anything for ya. What do ya have against a french mirror when it's in english? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Hey RanchNachos, mandrake is a french company, so why wouldn't they use a french mirror? bvc and everyone else who might know. I'm sorry to labour the point, but what's the difference between the "kernel-2.6.2" and "kernel-BOOT-2.6.2" ? Im really in the dark. I've downloaded both, and don't follow why the kernel-2.6.2 is 17.3 megs, but the kernel-BOOT-2.6.2 is only 6.5 megs. So which one should I use ???? Or maybe the question should be which one has worked for you ??? regards John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 The next question is how do I sort this out ??? When I try this "urpmi kernel-2.6.2.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm" I get this "Preparing... ################################################## Installation failed: file /usr/lib/libuser/libuser_files.so from install of libuser-0.51.7-8mdk conflicts with file from package libuser1-0.51-6mdk file /usr/lib/libuser/libuser_ldap.so from install of libuser-0.51.7-8mdk conflicts with file from package libuser1-0.51-6mdk file /usr/lib/libuser/libuser_shadow.so from install of libuser-0.51.7-8mdk conflicts with file from package libuser1-0.51-6mdk" So if I try this "urpmi kernel-BOOT-2.6.2.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm" I get this "Preparing... ################################################## 1:kernel-BOOT-2.6.2.1mdk ################################################## /sbin/installkernel: illegal option -- s Usage: installkernel -[NCLlngarhcq] KERNEL_VERSION BOOTIMAGE MAPFILE -C: Don't copy config files -l: Add a lilo entry -i: Dont generate Initrd files -n: Don't launch lilo. -N: Don't add entry to bootloader -g: Add a Grub entry. -y: Add a yaboot entry. -L: Don't do link to default /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/System.map -d: Don't autodetect boot loader. -a: Autodetect boot loader. -r: Features for RPM post install. -c: Don't copy files. -q: Be quiet. -h: This help. error: execution of %post scriptlet from kernel-BOOT-2.6.2.1mdk-1-1mdk failed, exit status 2" regards John (still stumped!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 If I'm not mistaken, kernel-BOOT is the boot kernel, that is, the kernel stored on the CDs when booting up the CD to begin installation/recovery/livecd-thing. If that's the case you probably don't want to use that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RanchNachos Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 "Preparing... ##################################################Installation failed: file /usr/lib/libuser/libuser_files.so from install of libuser-0.51.7-8mdk conflicts with file from package libuser1-0.51-6mdk file /usr/lib/libuser/libuser_ldap.so from install of libuser-0.51.7-8mdk conflicts with file from package libuser1-0.51-6mdk file /usr/lib/libuser/libuser_shadow.so from install of libuser-0.51.7-8mdk conflicts with file from package libuser1-0.51-6mdk" I got that same error. It's crap I tell you! CRAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 If you're trying to upgrade to mandrake 10.0 beta 2, don't use that mirror! It seems to be missing files... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kde-head Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 my extreme apologies. i'm a duffus. earlier in the thread i'm inferred that ATI had better Linux support than Nvidia. I got the two mixed up. Nvidia has the better track record - doing a google for "ati linux support" reveals a petition to get a certain ATI card supported. Whilst doing a "nvidia linux support" reveals a ton of info on Nvidia linux drivers and stories about Nvidia's full support for Linux. Nvidia steps up linux support but i'm still confused about this - which one releases the drivers as open source? I'm sure I heard it was ATI - but maybe Nvidia are faster with releasing closed source Linux drivers? Maybe thats where I got confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 but i'm still confused about this - which one releases the drivers as open source? I'm sure I heard it was ATI - but maybe Nvidia are faster with releasing closed source Linux drivers? Maybe thats where I got confused. join the club :lol: where they stand now? I don't know, nor really care. Nvidia use to be open source...now? D/K. I don't know a thing about ati..thank goodness :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 So, does anyone know how I (and RanchNachos) get round this conflict's problem with the libuser files? I'm not sure because it looks like a different problem from the normal failed dependencies problem that you see when installing rpm's sometimes? or is it just a case of installing the conflicting libuser files seperately? because I should have thought that I'd still get the conflict? Any idea's please anyone? regards John p.s. For Lord Kenneth. Thanks for that. With hindsight, that's an idea that I hadn't considered. I wonder if it's better to use the "BOOT" version? or to have both?? Because surely if the "BOOT" kernel is the one used when booting/installing/liveCD etc that's the one to use as it would then be the main kernel to boot (am I making sense??) the mandrake from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 if you're asking what I would do and want to do it at your own risk rpm -e --nodeps libuser urpmi the kernel and it should grab libuser1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 p.s. For Lord Kenneth. Thanks for that. With hindsight, that's an idea that I hadn't considered. I wonder if it's better to use the "BOOT" version? or to have both?? Because surely if the "BOOT" kernel is the one used when booting/installing/liveCD etc that's the one to use as it would then be the main kernel to boot (am I making sense??) the mandrake from. If I am right about the BOOT version, I would not use that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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