JonEberger

First, I'm glad that a distribution is good enough to pull people away from Windows and bring them to Linux (on the whole). Very seriously, it's what the community (again, on the whole) has needed. Linux has long been seen by many as the OS of nerdy college kids and and the very technically literate few. The tools have been there for several distributors to make a release which was that attractive and they just haven't done it. Ubuntu has done that, and I say good for them.

Second, I'm a Fedora fan. I run Fedora 8 and it works very well for me. But I also have an installation of KUbuntu on a desktop at home. It's good. It's clean, fast, and usable. I think a lot of tools in Fedora are clunky and the menus often reference the same tools. My mother-in-law who knows nothing of Linux can use my KUbuntu box. I'd never unleash her on my Fedora lappy.

I agree that in time many may move on. People like most of us who are willing to go out and fix the broken things. But, a good deal of people are looking at Linux as an attractive free alternative to an OS which charges dollars per seat. Why not use one that is efficient and easy to use?

Yves and John,

I would love to actually read this. If you both don't mind, either just post the original response for all to read, or the PM. Seriously, I have battled this and give us due to time constraints.

Thanks guys,

Jon

i honestly haven't had the same problem.

KDE 4 was, the last time I checked, still remarkable not functional for me at the time. I hope that will drastically change. I just looked on their site and they just announced the 4.1 alpha1 version. Regardless of release styles for KDE, "alpha" still means early. It does look awesome, but I've had to resist the urge to swap over while I'm finishing some important work.

Will KDE 3 apps compile under KDE 4?

Jon

that sounds like solid advice to me.

the iwl3945 driver works very well for me....now.

Yeah this problem sucks. The Intel drivers were fantastic.

You should look at the iwl3945 project on sourceforge.

In Fedora, I replaced the network daemon with networkmanager and used the knetworkmanager and it works better than it did. However, my IPW3945 wireless light on my lappy doesn't show connectivity. which sucks.

Jon

Hi Everyone,

So...I took iphitus' advice and looked some more at networkmanager. I noticed that there were tools in place for it in KDE (I'm a KDE user). So I gave the

sudo yum install knetworkmanager

and i can connect flawlessly via wireless networking. So, I'm totally curious why NetworkManager can do this, but I couldn't from command line. Are there CLI tools for networkmanager?

JME

Hi Iphitus,

You're right. I caught that and just didn't correct it on here, but in my modprobe.conf. I now have

alias eth1 iwl3945.

My wired NIC is eth0. Under ipw3945 the wireless NIC was eth1 and I would really like to keep it that way for naming conventions.

Using

/sbin/iwconfig eth1 essid myessidname

By associating with the router, do you mean changing essid under iwconfig? If so, I can do that. I have no passkeys or encryption.

I'll look more into networkmanager.

Thanks,

Jon

Fedora just released to yum a new kernel. I'm going to try to all of these things. THEN I'll get that kernel and give it a go. I can ALWAYS go back. You gotta love the Linux.

I have the iwlwifi-3945.ucode drivers in my /lib/firmware directory and even attempted to update these to suffer the same level of success i'm currently enjoying.

Jon

I'll check to make sure I've got firmware going on. It should be there by default.

I thought about using ndiswrapper. It just seems crazy to use a level of software abstraction for hardware when there are drivers which are supposed to work.

Thanks for all your help everyone,

JME

Hi Folks,

So after building the compat-wireless drivers, I see the NIC, the NIC sees my router. However, when I issue

/sbin/ifup eth1

I get the response

Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :

SET failed on device eth1 ; No such file or directory.

Thi s is what I got using the stock kernel drivers. I've got firmware and drivers installed. Any suggestions?

Hi Greg,

I did try those out. Thanks for comments. I guess I had taken this to say I shouldn't need these updated drivers. But I guess that an updated driver SHOULD always work better. I'll definitely give them a try.

If it comes to it, I'll upgrade the kernel.

JME

Hi everyone,

I've done about as much Googling as I possibly can now I'm hoping for some of your expert advice.

I've got a Dell Latitude D620 laptop which has the Intel ProWireless 3945 wireless NIC. The reason I purchased this card for this laptop was the fact that Intel has traditionally supported their hardware under Linux. I am running Fedora 8 and had a 2.6.23 kernel. I had always used the ipw9345 Sourceforge page and gotten binaries and then had eventually used the Freshrpms dkms-ipw3945 and associated packages to make continually running the ipw3945 binaries simplistic. However, when I updated my software I got a 2.6.24 kernel and the autoinstaller didn't work. I'm forced to use the http://intellinuxwireless.org/ project's iwl3945 (iwlwifi) software. Until now I'm unable to get this working. I can OCCASIONALLY scan and find networks.

I removed all the ipw3945 stuff and made sure I had all the iwl3945 (firmware, etc.) installed. I added the following lines to my /etc/modprobe.conf

alias eth1 tg3

options eth1 disable_hw_scan=1

and removed all the blacklist entries for iwl3945. The relevant entry from lspci is

0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)

and

from dmesg is

iwl3945: Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux, 1.2.26kds

iwl3945: Copyright© 2003-2008 Intel Corporation

iwl3945: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 3945ABG

iwl3945: Tunable channels: 11 802.11bg, 13 802.11a channels

My /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 is

# Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection

DEVICE=eth1

ONBOOT=yes

BOOTPROTO=dhcp

HWADDR=00:1b:77:23:52:85

TYPE=Ethernet

USERCTL=yes

PEERDNS=yes

IPV6INIT=no

NM_CONTROLLED=yes

I have nothing for WPA keys or anything like that. Is anyone else having any troubles with this change?

Jon

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It's a warning man. Your CPU is overheating. You should definitely check to see what services/servers PCLinuxOS has running all the time. If it's not something that's OS-based (as you suggest), it could be that Mandriva just wan't reporting the kernel msg. You may want to check too see if cooling fans are working then clean them. You may also need to check to see if heatsinks are in place, etc.

The modulated freq. component is just saying that your CPU is using a built-in safety to slow itself down to prevent heat damage to itself.

Good luck,

Jon

Here is a link to my desktop screenshot using KDE 4.

Hi Folks,

So after way too much tinkering, I figured something out. I got the phone to be recognized under Linux for a modem using KMobileTools. You can check out this blog I wrote about it.

Jon

From the third link....

Boeing and the Army said they chose not to use Microsoft's proprietary software because they didn't want to be beholden to the company. Instead, they chose to develop a Linux-based operating system based on publicly available code.

I ran across the floppy disks that my version of Netscape came on not too long ago. almost 5 MB. I thought that was massive.

I don't really feel that IE became usable (at all!) until IE4. Then it was flakey. IE 5.5 was the best release that I'd ever seen of IE and I still disliked it.

I find it interesting that most all of us used Netscape even when IE was freely available (in whatever form we could obtain it!). Sure the code sucked, but perhaps we have a bit of disestablishmentism in our blood, too. Perhaps we also like to do things different than most everyone else.

i agree and disagree simultaneously.

coming from someone who programs (not GUIs) for a living, i see that sometimes momentary setbacks result in a longterm gain. I'm still on KDE3.5.8.whatever weird smaller release number bc of it's stability. if you're looking for stability KDE 4.0.x is not a good idea. but they're probably doing something that is very worthwhile at the momentary sacrifice of a fanbase.

i think i do believe that eye-candy is worthwhile. it's an attraction. people stare at sexy stars because they're an attraction (crude example, i know). but the logic isn't unsound in place with KDE. the problem is that once you get people there, you've got to be able to hold on to them. so your software has got to be stable. you do need to be able to boot and shutdown your laptop. that's a must. Windows has it figured out. someone needs to put similar efforts into Linux for somewhat of the same levels of functionality (in a Linuxy way).

if you think something needs improving...contribute. that's what makes Linux awesome. even filing a bug report is a help.

(edit: i'm a doofus)

Perhaps the card is the issue. It mounts easily now since I bought the card (on my Mac, my Fedora 8 install, and my WinXP).

Jon:

 

In an earlier post, you indicated you have a v3xx. Where is the storage device setting you speak of? I cannot seem to locate it on any of the menus from my AT&T v3xx.

 

My current status is that I am able to download/upload to my phone from Win2K using the Motorola software. This is adequate for my needs. However, I am curious about the storage device setting you speak of. Recall that I do not have a supplementary card like you do.

If I do

Main Menu->Settings->Connection->USB Settings

the only setting to change is "Default Connection" and it has three options. They are

1. Data Connection

2. Memory Card

3. USB Printing

I just select Memory Card. I hope this helps.

Jon

I know it's been awhile since this thread was initiated. However, I'd like still try to help.

Zippy, you're using the ati driver. Can you try using the proprietary drivers from ATI? What happens then?

I only see information for one output monitor.

if I recall correctly the phone is normally set to connect as modem-device with the computer, but there is an option that it connects as storage device, if it is set to storage device you can either chose to access the internal phone memory or the slot-mounted card, then you can access it directly with your filemanager (no extra software needed). at least for me it worked this way

i'll second this. on saturday i bought a 1 GB microSD card from Sam's Club (for 14 dollars with the adapters for other SD card slots). I changed the setting to storage device, formatted the card and gave it a name. now when i plug it in, it automatically gets mounted. i already have ppt presentations on my cellphone.

i don't know if this will work without the microSD card.

Hi daniewicz,

i unfortunately haven't even spent any more time on it. let me know what you come up with.

jon

i don't necessarily believe that either philosophy is any better.

mandriva is marketing a usable desktop OS. good for them. they've got the tools for it

ubuntu (by using a debian base!) markets to a different group of people automatically even if they don't want to do so. by not including those tools they are raising the level of expertise which a user must have and removing more of the new windows converts. that's cool too.

i like a lot of the debian-based tools way more than the mandriva/redhat/fedora rpm-based way of doing things. it's just all depending on what you're looking for in an os.

so, Steve, let me ask why the swap to ubuntu?