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Redundant though it may be, I also agree. Thac, you deserve great props for giving us the chance to try out this exciting update. If I have a complaint, it's that you have made me impatient to try out 10.2 now ;) BTW how does one actually get an install of 10.2 beta? Pardon my noobishness...

Okay, I see what you mean now. Mine came back when I did _your_ fix! Guess that doesn't help you much though. From the output, I'm guessing that update-menus is a script? If you locate and read it, maybe you can correct the problem by figuring out where it gets its information from...

Where do the menu configfiles live anyway? Are they a hierarchy of dirs and link-files a la Windoze, or all in one file?

Do you mean 'end session only'? Mine came back when I did the fix above. Can you explain in more detail, step-by-step stylee, what you did for the menus? It's driving me mad, I've got like 3 Homes! Hell, right now something seems subtly different every time I reboot. Still no sound (anyone?), but my mouse behaviour sorted itself out mysteriously at some point...

I reallly didn't know what to do about the second 'head' on original install, kinda didn't expect it to work so I just set it as Plug'n'Play (seemed safest, non-commital option). I haven't changed any settings since then. Looks like the X/login problem has been cracked over in the 'KDE3.4 RPMs' thread http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showtop...75entry176574 So I'll just go try the fix there. However, even if that works, it still leaves me with no sound. Any ideas there?

Ummm, yup. Was that bad? @devries: I have a TV-out which is configured for 2nd monitor (well not really configured as I can't ever get it to work, but it's there). Is that an issue?

urpme kdebase-kdm seems to require removing a ton of deps as well (like most of KDE from what I can see). Is that normal / okay? Either way it's a PITA, but will try it, I guess <shrugs>.

Yeah, I meant to ask: how does one go about that? And anyone remember that 'gotcha' KMix setting that needs to be changed from default?

If you mean in Konq, yeah I lost'em too. Hope they're floating around somewhere, like the missing menu items... EDIT: AAARGH! Ctrl+Tab doesn't tab my Firefox now either! Now it just tabs desktops! Reinstall is looking quite good unless someone has a solution.

Hmmm.... having to be very careful now, as my mouse wheel now prefers to move me back and forth thru my Firefox history and between windows. To quote Sean Connery in The Last Crusade, "Our situation has not improved." The spare IDs are gone and the login has a very minimalist look now, but no other changes to report. Can't we hack some configfiles here or sumthin'?

Cheers - Gonna reboot and see if anything happened. Here's what I got (did it twice for some reason): [root@localhost robin]# genkdmconf Information: reading old xdm config file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config Warning: cannot copy file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-keys [root@localhost robin]# genkdmconf Information: reading old kdmrc /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc (from kde >= 2.2.x) Information: old kdmrc is from kde >= 3.1 (config version 2.3)

command not found What is it anyway?

If I'm correct, KDE 3.3 is not yet part of 10.1 main or update mirrors. Good to hear the symptoms are quite similar across the board. - I have the login issue (have to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace 4 times to get a shell I can startx from) - I have the mangled menus (all the K stuff x2, most other stuff disparu). Konqueror also has two sets of nav buttons (same issue, different place?) Here's a fresh one - no sound. On login it's actually mute, and un-muting it in Kmix doesn't survive reboot. I remember a quite simple GUI settings fix that sorted this back in 10.0 - except I don't remember which bl**dy slider/button/whatever it was. Anyone?

Hang on - you repeat 4 times and then all is normal? <runs off to try it out>

Can you tell us a bit about what system you're running, and any changes you made just prior to this catastrophe?

Joe, are your symptoms exactly as described above? (Welcome to the board, by the way!)

Here's the (WW) and (EE) entries from Xorg.0.log: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) Option "XkbOptions" requires an string value (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) (WW) LoadModule: given non-canonical module name "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a" (EE) Failed to load module "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a" (once-only module, 136034243) (WW) I810(0): Primary Pipe is B, switching off second monitor (0x800) (WW) I810(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xe8000000,0x8000000) (WW) Option "XkbOptions" requires an string value (WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring (WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. Means nowt to me. Is X really the problem here? Where is the conf for the login dialog, for instance?

Results: _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTServerListeners: server already running Fatal server error: Cannot establish any listening sockets - make sure an X server isn't already running Please consult the X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information. then the same bit as before. I haven't looked at the log yet, but I'll go and do that now. I'm pretty sure X is running, because when I Ctrl+Alt+F1, the shell has the graphical trimmings. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace doesn't have any noticeable effect. The 'Halt' button does actually work now, though. (Great...) What about the login box with all the system users displayed yet? Or the files 'not found'? Any info/ideas about those?

Okay, here goes (same for both commands): Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. Please consult the X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Then it pauses for ~10sec and: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key giving up. xinit: unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno:3): server error. I also noticed two other things in the initial startup: 1) Starting mountd: No Mountpoints Defined 2) (This was just before X kicked in so hard to read): something about 'master raw device /dev/rawctl' (I think)

I'll go back and check. Gonna have to be swapping boots to get through this...

Oh bugger. I seem to have now got things FUBAR as well. Full symptoms here if anyone cares to have a look (pretty please...) http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showtopic=23905

Hi all, I was installing KDE 3.4 from thac's RPMs (see here for details) and something went badly titsup. After installing the base, later I rebooted and did urpmi --auto-select. That's when things went wrong - or precisely, after the further 500MB of updates when I then rebooted. During boot, I noticed one obviously worrying line: mknod: '/dev/dri/card0': No such file or directory Everything else seems fine (I think) but when X starts, the login box contains not just my user, but all the other system accounts adm, apache, bin and so on - root as well. Trying to login as me (or root), just bounces me back to the same screen. The 'Reboot' and 'Halt' buttons have no response. I can drop to shell, login as either myself or root, and do everything as normal. So I guess it seems like an X-based problem. Oh, and I checked for the /dev/dri/card0 file, and it is there. Can anyone suggest which files I should be looking at to try and repair this? TIA

Hmmm, now I seem to be installing a lot of apps. that I didn't previously have. Should I have flagged thac's repo as --updates? (This is on second round of urpmi --auto-select, 2 days after first installing kde3.4)

thac me, it works...! Umm, I never saw owt like the above. Perhaps that's only if you were using the default splash by default (I go for that cheeky 'Redmond' one myself :) ) Mind you, the side-image on the KMenu (which didn't change when I upped to 3.3) is now looking appropriately show-offish. My custom taskbar buttons for Firefox and Tbird disappeared, and I'm not too sure about the MASSIVE tooltips for those buttons, but otherwise nothing blew up so I'm happy. Thac you very much. BTW - Knoppix3.7 (KDE3.3.2) has XP-style file info tooltips when you mouseover a file on desktop / in Konqueror. Me like. How to get?

Eh, yep good point... might as well use the membership there from time to time... 8)