Ciinien

Sorry about taking so long to respond; I have been tied up with other things. Unfortunately, no, John, that did not work. I changed things as you and aRTee suggested but still no joy on the CDs. I had some other problems as well so I am doing a fresh install (thinking back on a post you made about things sometimes getting corrupted on install). I've done so many installs, it goes pretty quickly at this point... lol. I am going to try the minimalist approach this time and bring the system up with just enough to get it running and have KDE. If all goes well with that, I will add a package, test it and move on. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong, given my limited knowledge of Linux, is in bringing too many packages online without knowing what makes them tick. After all, this is a learning experience for me as much so as anything else. I appreciate both of you trying to help and will let you know how the fresh install goes. Cheers! Ci

Thanks for all the help and suggestions. I finally stumbled around and got my /var/www/html permissions set to allow me to write and execute properly. However, I don't think the initial install set php v4.3.4 up properly because I am having an extremely hard time locating all the files causing the following errors (the file test.php is from the php installation documentation to check for proper installation): Warning: main(config.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/html/test.php on line 2 Warning: main(): Failed opening 'config.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php/:/usr/share/pear/') in /var/www/html/test.php on line 2 Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) in /var/www/html/test.php on line 3 Warning: mysql_select_db(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) in /var/www/html/test.php on line 4 Warning: mysql_select_db(): A link to the server could not be established in /var/www/html/test.php on line 4 Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) Needless to say, none of these files are where they should be according to these error messages and I can't track them down using locate, find or whereis. I am just about to pull my hair out (what little I still have... ) over MDK's file location strategy. I have even gone through the directories, starting with /, by hand from a terminal and still cannot find most of these files. I'm about to the point of completely reinstalling MDK and hand-picking the files it installs just so I know for sure it has all the proper ones on the computer--somewhere... lol Cheers! Ci

This post may not be needed, but I thought a new user or two might be wondering how to get v10-Official without a lot of hassle since Mandrake hasn't yet released the ISOs for version 10-Official because they are still selling it from the Mandrake store with the PowerPak... B) . This mini-guide is kind of my way of giving a little back to the community for all the help everyone has given me since I began my Tux journey a couple of weeks ago. This post covers using a Windoze box to download and burn the boot image for v10-Official to CD, which in turn allows one to boot their prospective [standalone] Linux box and get v10-Official straight off the web via ftp. This would also apply to a dual-boot scenario--simply use LILO or Grub where applicable to complete that process. Please keep in mind, however, that this is the one and only time we will mention dual-booting and this guide is specifically geared toward getting the files on a standalone Windoze box and installing them on a standalone Linux box. There are several other methods of going about doing what I outline here. For me, the following method was the simplest, fastest, and most intuitive. WARNING, Will Robinson: We'll be doing a clean install here NOT an upgrade--if you have anything from an older Linux installation you wish to keep that might not be in the RPM directories (e.g. bookmarks.html, data files, plug-ins, etc.), save those RPMs, tarballs and/or files to CD before following the steps outlined here. NOTE: This *can* be a relatively slow process depending upon your ISPs current serving load and the web and mirror traffic at the time of your download (for me, on a cable modem, it was about 3.25 hours from booting the CD to looking at KDE but your mileage will vary). Having said all that, the mirror we will use for this example downloads pretty fast as a general rule. Another reason it can sometimes be slow is that ALL the hdlists, synth-files, network drivers, applicable hardware drivers, et al, have to be retrieved and checksummed. If the files all pass their MD5 test, they are then loaded into memory and the actual install begins. If it appears that the download might have stalled, chill! Get a cup of coffee, a Pepsi, a beer, take a smoke break, watch a movie with the significant other and/or kids (if applicable), whatever... rofl. Edit: After having my attention called to it in a PM, I realized I had inadvertantly created a typo on the download time above. Originally I had put fifteen minutes, which is impossible, even across a T1! I have changed the time to include the correct hours figure as well. My apologies for the typo... The most important thing is: DO NOT interrupt your box during this phase or you might have to download and install a bunch of network drivers and junk and use both floppy and CD for your install. You really don't wanna mess with all that unless you're pretty experienced with both Windoze and Linux, and have a lot of time. Once the downloads start, just let your computer do it's thing. Check on it every so often though, so you can answer any prompts it might spit out. Okay, here we go, sports fans: Go to whichever ftp server you normally use, we'll use ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr for this example (I use this one because I generally get great download speeds and they usually have files sooner than some of the other mirrors... ;)). Navigate to the /images directory to snag the boot.iso file--for the ftp://club-internet.fr server this is: /pub/unix/linux/distributions/Mandrakelinux/official/10.0/i586/images (don't close this browser window just yet, you'll need some other urls for a later install step and it's just simpler and easier if they're handy in your browser's location bar as you navigate among them Check out the install.txt and the install.htm on the way to the /images directory for specific instructions if you've got your propeller cap on at the time Otherwise, the instructions found in the install.* file(s) might be a little confusing for new users; here's the skinny for all my fellow non-prop-heads: Copy the boot.iso from /images directory to a temp directory somewhere on your Windoze box. It doesn't matter where, you can delete this entire temp directory when we're through with it if you like Fire up your favorite burning software (I use EasyCD 5.x Platinum personally) Burn the boot.iso file from the temp directory to a CD. It's okay if your CD software wants to close out the session, that CD is dead now anyway, even though we only put about 8MB on it. Make sure you navigate back to the /i586 directory so you'll have that url handy [*]Stick the CD you just burned into the soon-to-be Linux box and boot it up [*]When the first graphical interface comes up, just hit ENTER to do a clean install. Choose FTP and hit the TAB key to move to the OK choice and hit ENTER NOTE: DO NOT choose NFS because your box will then look for the install files somewhere on your home or office network; unless you've previously installed them there, they don't exist! Also, you can't choose HTTP from this particular mirror. If you wish to use HTTP to download, find a mirror that offers that choice then come back to this guide when you've gotten to this step and chosen HTTP instead of FTP. [*]In the next screen, enter the information, all of which is given above. FTP server is in step #1. Mandrake directory is in step #2--without the /images directory on the end though... ;) [*]You're logging on anonymously, so don't put anything in login or password. Unless you're behind a proxy, don't put anything in those two lines either [*]When ready, hit TAB to move to the OK button and hit ENTER. [*]The next screen advises you to wait, that program is being loaded into memory if all of the above went as it should have. If you do not see this screen, reboot your box and follow the steps again until you do see it. The program downloads and we then move on... [*]From here on out, the install is just like a CD install, just a little slower because of the network download instead of grabbing files directly from the CD as it normally would If you haven't installed Linux at all yet and need help with the install from this point, aRTee has an excellent tutorial for installing v10-CE here. Just follow the tutorial--same install, just the Official version of the files instead of the CE version. Good luck and enjoy :mdk: v10-Official! Cheers! Ci Edit: moved from Installing Mandrake by spinynorman

I think you probably misunderstood me, fissy... ;). I'm not grousing about not liking MDK. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. At any rate, I will try the suggestions offered by both of you to see if I can get things going my way on this web site thing. Cheers! Ci Info

This will get a little long, for that I apologize in advance. However, I am about to the information overload point and need a little help/advice... (NOTE: I'm having to edit this on the fly because the forum's "preview" functionality is broken and it posts every time instead of previewing... rofl) Running a 10-Official system, upgraded from 10-CE as the rpms became available. I installed Webmin and it has helped some, as far as finding things and helping to bring servers online more easily--thanks, Jamie! I've managed to get most, if not all, critical systems up and running at this point. I still don't have my CD-R and CD-RW acting properly, sound and RW wise, but I can access them when needed for software updates so I'lll worry about ALSA and Sound Server playing well together later. Right now I am just trying to get my servers set up to transfer my web site from my Windoze XP Pro box to this box, the MDK 10 one. A great deal of my problem stems from the fact that Mandrake, for some reason, doesn't install it's pacakges where most tutorials tell you to look for them. In other words, if a given tut tells me to look in, for example, /usr/local/<wherever>, mandrake has probably put my stuff in /home/ciinien/Documents or some such stupid place. I get so frustrated trying to play detective and track down where MDK puts some of my apps and stuff... I have read so many posts, forums, doc sets that I am simply overwhelmed at this point with information. What I'm asking here is a lot, but if someone could please "simply" walk me through setting up Apache to serve my site, I'd greatly appreciate it. Here's where I am so far: Apache is up and running--test page comes up fine. MySql is up and running but for some reason I can't get to the test page for it. I don't have write permissions (non-root user) for the /var/www/html directory and can't figure out how to give them to myself using chmod. I have written a small test.php script to check my web site (relocated to /var/www/html/bsdlabs) to do this but I can't seem to get to that directory either--permissions again. I have tried to make sure all the configuration files (Apache, MySql, etc.) have the proper pointers, links, symlinks, and so forth that are needed but still can't seem to get this working. Ergo, I finally asked for help here, where I know one or the other of you old vets have been here and done this successfully. Please pardon the fact that I am too thick to get all this but I'm trying to learn so much at one time I guess I'm just brain-dead at the moment. Again, thanks in advance for any help and/or advice. Cheers! Ci

I seem to remember trying all that, aRTee, but will try again. Thanks for the response. Cheers! Ci

While not totally applicable, I am having some of these same problems with finding and using my CD and CD-RW. Please find the following information: /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda6 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdd,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850,noauto,exec 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /etc/lilo.conf # File generated by DrakX/drakboot # WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this file boot=/dev/hda map=/boot/map default="linux-secure" keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=50 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux" root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent" vga=791 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux-nonfb" root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5" vga=791 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-secure label="linux-secure" root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-secure.img append="devfs=mount acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent" vga=791 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label="failsafe" root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="failsafe acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 devfs=nomount" vga=791 read-only [root@bsdlabs mnt]# ll total 4 drwxrwxrwx 0 root root 0 Apr 23 11:33 cdrom/ drwxrwxrwx 0 root root 0 Apr 23 11:54 cdrom2/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Apr 20 12:37 floppy/ [root@bsdlabs mnt]# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a27-dvd (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Note: This version is an unofficial (modified) version with DVD support Note: and therefore may have bugs that are not present in the original. Note: Please send bug reports or support requests to <warly@mandrakesoft.com>. Note: The author of cdrecord should not be bothered with problems in this version. scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial libscg transport code version (warly-scsi-linux-sg.c-1.80-mdk '@(#)scsi-linux-sg.c 1.80 04/03/08 Copyright 1997 J. Schilling'). scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'SAMSUNG ' 'DVD-ROM SD-608 ' 'BT01' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'HP ' 'CD-Writer+ 9100b' '1.07' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * [root@bsdlabs mnt]# lsmod Module Size Used by sg 39772 0 lp 12904 0 r128 105664 30 md5 4864 1 ipv6 251616 14 snd-seq-midi 9184 0 snd-emu10k1-synth 7968 0 snd-emux-synth 38176 1 snd-emu10k1-synth snd-seq-virmidi 8352 1 snd-emux-synth snd-seq-midi-emul 8768 1 snd-emux-synth snd-seq-oss 33568 0 snd-seq-midi-event 8704 3 snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-oss snd-seq 55696 8 snd-seq-midi,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-midi-emul,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event snd-pcm-oss 53316 0 snd-mixer-oss 19008 1 snd-pcm-oss snd-emu10k1 88900 2 snd-emu10k1-synth snd-rawmidi 25248 3 snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm 97440 2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-emu10k1 snd-timer 26660 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm snd-seq-device 9032 7 snd-seq-midi,snd-emu10k1-synth,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi snd-ac97-codec 59588 1 snd-emu10k1 snd-page-alloc 12996 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-pcm snd-util-mem 5440 2 snd-emux-synth,snd-emu10k1 snd-hwdep 10016 2 snd-emux-synth,snd-emu10k1 snd 54884 18 snd-seq-midi,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-seq-device,snd-ac97-codec,snd-util-mem,snd-hwdep soundcore 10208 1 snd af_packet 22824 2 hid 55136 0 ide-cd 41764 0 cdrom 38336 1 ide-cd floppy 61332 0 ipt_TOS 3232 12 ipt_REJECT 7456 4 ipt_LOG 6400 6 ipt_state 2720 16 ipt_multiport 2848 2 ipt_conntrack 3296 0 iptable_filter 3616 1 iptable_mangle 3616 1 iptable_nat 24996 0 ip_conntrack 33612 3 ipt_state,ipt_conntrack,iptable_nat ip_tables 18720 9 ipt_TOS,ipt_REJECT,ipt_LOG,ipt_state,ipt_multiport,ipt_conntrack,iptable_filter, iptable_mangle,iptable_nat 3c59x 40904 0 supermount 39856 2 intel-agp 18364 1 agpgart 32460 2 intel-agp ppa 13448 0 parport_pc 34304 1 imm 13608 0 scsi_mod 117680 3 sg,ppa,imm parport 41032 4 lp,ppa,parport_pc,imm uhci-hcd 31856 0 usbcore 102908 4 hid,uhci-hcd rtc 13704 0 ext3 114216 1 jbd 61976 1 ext3 The apps I'm trying to use (KsCD, XMMS, K3B, etc.) cannot find the player or burner. Webmin and MCC sees them both fine. Any ideas? If more info is needed, please don't hesitate to ask for it as I don't know exactly what info is required to let you guys know what the problem is/might be. Cheers! Ci

*off topic* Yes, the avatars are fun, but it is nice to see real faces. I think it makes for better focus. Oh, she is my wife, and she is quite a lady! :D I agree with you both: the avs are great for "hobby" forums such as gaming and such but for a serious informational forum such as this, it is nice to see a pic of the person behind the advice, if you follow me. Call me old-fashioned, I just prefer seeing the person offering advice that has a system-wide impact on my network... :unsure: Cheers! Ci

Lennart. Try: $ su $ ifconfig Gets me the following: # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:24:E9:C4:AC inet addr:<the address assigned by router> Bcast:>machine's bcast addy> Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:24ff:fee9:c4ac/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:866 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:907 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:541786 (529.0 Kb) TX bytes:144204 (140.8 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xef00 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:576 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:576 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:50646 (49.4 Kb) TX bytes:50646 (49.4 Kb) Works for me on a 10-CE installation. Good luck. Cheers! Ci

Thanks for the welcome, aRTee. Aye, for one who wishes to explore, your site offers much info! As for the taking care of myself, it's my ability to admit that I am totally clueless coupled with my ADD/OCD personality that makes me dig and ask questions of those who do know until I also know the answers--after all, a sick mind is a terrible thing to waste... Cheers! Ci

I had a couple of problems on install with 10-CE as well, with internet functionality. Instead of going into them again, I will simply link to that thread for those interested. Cheers! Ci

I came, I saw, I kicked its... well, you've all seen Ghostbusters I would imagine... :P It took digging through many forums and old posts, reading a bunch of docs, and generally $ vi -ing first this file and another but I finally figured out my problem and got everything running. So now I'm posting from my brand new installation of 10-CE and marveling at the "smart guys" who sit around, become bored, and dream up stuff like Linux... B) The problem turned out to be a combination of 10-CE not liking my 3c9x series of NIC and the hotplug code. I got to the point where I was ready to chunk the box out the window but decided to install an older 3c509 TP card that I had lying around. It didn't at first work so I dug in the forums more. I stumbled across a thread referring to a cooker newletter remark that the hotplug code was not quite ready for prime-time in 10-CE so I disabled that as well. Still no joy at that point. I did a complete, new install, wiping the hdd in the process and when the box came up, with no hotplugging and the 3c509 card, everything worked great. I $ vi -ed the CD players to ide-scsi in /etc/lilo.conf again and now both shutdown/reboot and start up report no errors whatsoever. Not that there isn't some bug just waiting to fly out of the core code at any given time, it's just that I think I have them all swatted for the moment. Thanks so much to everyone for continually experimenting and posting your thoughts and results on these, and other forums and sites. Cheers! Ci

I tried, I truly did. I followed every shred of advice I found anywhere, including all the great advice/help/tips from all the posters in this thread. 9.2 simply refused to cooperate on the CD/CD-RW issue. So I blew it away... . At any rate, for my part, that now closes this thread, and saga of problems with my 9.2 install. My new install of 10-CE found the CDs but raised some new issues which are discussed in this thread since I felt that was a more appropriate place for it. Thanks again to all those who have tried to help and who put out such good tips, advice and tutorial posts for all us n00bs! Hooah! Cheers! Ci

aRTee, There's some great info on your site. I finished a clean, single-OS install of 10-CE this morning in the wee hours (never could get my CD and CD-RW to be properly recognized under 9.2 and had a thread going here). I really appreciate all the folks in that thread who tried their best to help as well. Since I never could get that install going my way, I got frustrated and just burned 10-CE and decided to install it instead.10-CE found both drives immediately, although is still had one as scsi and the other as ide. I added the <hdd=ide-scsi> and <hdc=ide-scsi> entries into /etc/lilo.conf and everything is fine now, CD wise. However, it seems as if I traded the CD problem for an internet-related one! Go figure-- out of the pan and into the fire, right? . Story of my life! Actually the 10-CE installation is running, pretty well, all things considered given that I am so new to Linux and judging by the various troubles I've read that others have had so far. Thanks to your review and several other docs I found around the web and these forums I had no actual install problems to speak of at all--I already love this place and just joined a week or so ago. I updated using the tutorial from Steve Ambrose (on using urpmi) and am on my way to having a great installation going on here, surprisingly stable for a rush-to-"gold" release. I also found another thread by anon on cooker being the proper place to update 10-CE from; I wasn't aware of this caveat being a n00b and all. Thanks for that, anon. As soon as I can get KBear to recognize the host I will go there for another round of "good" updates instead of the few I hunted around for before. The good news is though, if I can't get KBear to get them, I have a pretty good handle on using urpmi from the command line now... B) Anyway, enough back-slapping, beer-swilling and jocularity. I am encountering the following three problems with the install (two of which are just bootup/shutdown symptoms of the same root problem): When booting, the only failure I encounter is with my eth0 device/services, whatever. I receive the following error message: Starting internet connection if needed: usage: ifup <device name> FAILED When I request a reboot, I receive the following message as the OS goes through its shutdown routine: Stopping internet connection if needed: usage: ifdown <device name> FAILED Then, a couple of lines further down, when the shutdown routine reaches this code, it hangs and I have to cold boot to regain control of the machine:uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: USB bus 1 deregistered When I run $ ifup/ifdown from the command line, neither command recognizes the card as even being installed (the card is a 3c905 100Base TX (Boomerang)). It has always ran fine under Windoze and ran fine under 9.2. However, for some reason, I cannot get 10-CE to play well with it. I have been trying to configure this card/connection since the initial install but nothing seems to work. What I am trying to do is get it working with my small network. At the moment, this Linux box is configured as a client for simplicity. Be that as it may, it will eventually become the static IP addressed PDC for my 4-box network and host a bevy of servers. I have been in and out of the Control Center so much I'm surprised it even asks me for a password anymore... . I have assigned the card/device DHCP and other settings as outlined in Steve Scrimpshire's post here; meaning I set my /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (as detailed). I have also tried assigning a the static IP that now goes to my main Windoze box and configuring both router and firewall to see that setup. Still not working for me. Any advice help in this matter greatly appreciated. Meanwhile, back to trolling for all this GREAT information I've been finding... :deal: Cheers! Ci

Thanks, guys. I will give it another go and add the changes you've suggested. Cheers! Ci