conehead66

cmon guys , no-one willing to help , for a mandrake users forum there aren't many helpers here ?

I just looked and it already says readable and writeable , It wouldnt let me unmount that hard drivr partition , kept say drive in use or something similar - so I right clicked the drive icon and went to the enable / disable write and when I clicked it the setting was already write and asked if I would like to disable that capability (I said no) - am I doing something wrong here , to try to unmount I just right clicked the drive icon and clicked on un mount , but as I said , was told it's already/still in use !

aha , that sounds like it , I'll try that in a minute when I boot in to linux , sounds a little similar to the error Mdk gave me though ::: [barry@localhost barry]$ cd /home/barry/Download/rt2400_linux [barry@localhost rt2400_linux]$ su [root@localhost rt2400_linux]# make install ========= Install RT2400 device driver and utility ========= make[1]: Entering directory `/home/barry/Download/rt2400_linux/rt2400_rh73' install rt2400.o /lib/modules/2.4.18-3 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/barry/Download/rt2400_linux/rt2400_rh73' alias ra0 rt2400 install: `./xwlan/' is a directory chmod: failed to get attributes of `/usr/local/bin/RaConfig': No such file or directory ./script/setupui: line 14: [: =: unary operator expected

Hmm , I tried the wireless card drivers with knoppix and got this error after I told it to "make install" . root@ttyp0[rt2400a]# make install ========= Install RT2400 device driver and utility ========= make[1]: Entering directory `/ramdisk/home/knoppix/tmp/rt2400a/rt2400_rh73' install rt2400.o /lib/modules/2.4.18-3 install: cannot create regular file `/lib/modules/2.4.18-3': Read-only file system make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/ramdisk/home/knoppix/tmp/rt2400a/rt2400_rh73' make: *** [install] Error 2 root@ttyp0[rt2400a]# can anyone interpret those errors for me ?

Ixthusdan , thats ok , I wasnt trying to say windex is better either , just easier for me . Anyway , so I tried enabling onboard sound (AC97, realtek chip I believe) , both Knoppix and Mdk9.2 recognize it but I still couldn't get a peep out of it , Knoppix even offered me a choice of 2 different drivers to use ! I did leave the Phillips sound card in though so maybe that is interfering , not sure if Linux likes that sort of thing , I know Windoze usually doesn't . One funny thing I noticed , both linux's said the Phillips Psc706 sound card was a VLSI Thunderbird but wouldn't/couldn't use it . Knoppix scanned for a Wireless network card but replied "no wireless card found" , but it should be useable as the company distributes linux drivers . thanks to whoever said I give up too easy , it got my hackles up a little and made me at least keep looking a little longer and further .

quote: "5. Linux can be just as 'point&click' as you ever want it to be. However, what you mean is, I think 'click&install' or 'click&configure'. If HW vendors wouldn't write their drivers to work with windows, this wouldn't go as smooth in windows either." yeh you hit the nail on the head , it is plenty point and click , just not click and install . The Minitar wireless card had downloadable drivers (the original post) , just couldn't work out the errors and I couldn't find out from the website what chipset is on it . The sound card I'm very fond of and it would suck having to hit bios and turn on onboard sound for linux (not my idea of a dual boot system which is what I wanted (and currently have I guess) . I tried that hard drake , seemed to recognize the card to a degree but the config or search whatever seemed to do little . You were right about different distros not picking up hardware any better/worse too (I thought newer versions might though) , maybe I'll see if Knoppix will let let me use the commands mentioned earlier in the thread to install the wireless card . The graphic card doesn't matter as I'll have windows for any stuff like games . The sound would be wicked though but searching google didnt seem to come up with much .

Ixthusdan , where did I say the people here know nothing about windows ? - I just said I know nothing about linux . by the way , linux isn't the only OS where individuals make or modify drivers - there were no XP drivers for my old Mustek scanner but after some googling I found someone had modded some to work . Anyway , I was neither trying to put linux down or give Bill Gates a blowjob , just mentioned my personal experience so far . Pzatch - Lindows , downloaded it , burnt the cd , couldn't do squat with it Darkelve - what do you mean by a live distro ? I kinda thought the ones that ran from a cd like Knoppix was a live distro - again a lack of knowledge of linux on my part ! anyway , like I said , I didn't just try one distro ! and couldn't get online without getting that soppy wireless card working with Mdk9.2 . which I still have the odd puzzled look at ! Everything looks like you've installed a sweet lil OS but bugger all seems to work , worse still , no mp3's in the background while I toy since there is no sound . I feel kinda like Homer Simpson in that episode , "Doh , where's the any key ?"

I know it sounds like I'm giving up too easy - but from my point of view (once again a windows user point of view , so a little different than you guys I guess) but ... I first tried Mandrake 6 , too old for my pc apparently , then I tried Lindows 4.0 but had no idea how to even attempt the install (wasn't a bootable cd that I have) , so I downloaded Knoppix 3.2 to try something different , again it was a little old for my hardware so I then d/l and try knoppix 3.3 , again it runs but I can't get enough hardware working , I then get Lycoris desktop lx 3 off of a mate , it installs , seems too old for my hardware again and afterwards won't reboot . Finally I move to Mandrake 9.2 , install nice and easy , seems cool , but I can't set the hardware up even after I d/l some drivers (my lack of knowledge , not blaming anyone else) . With windows I'm no newbie , but even for newbies most drivers and the like are click and install or very little harder than that . I guess I've become too accustomed to the click and go convenience winblows provides .

well , after heaps more searching and pissing about I've come to the conclusion I'm not meant for linux , I was only trying to set it up because the satellite decoder I was thinking of buying uses Linux OS for firmware . Linux seems to be for people who want to spend more time learning about the OS than actually using the PC so I'm sticking with the old Mr reliable , XP Pro . (I guss I can take back that 5gb I partitioned away for linux too !) I will say one thing for Mandrake 9.2 , it did install easily , just a pity it doesn't pick up much of my hardware , strange considering nothing new about my setup (it didn't like my Phillips Psc706 sound card , didn't really like the Geforce4 , didn't like my Minitar wireless PCI card , only likes my A4 Tech mouse if I call it an MSintellimouse , doesn't like my 6in1 USb memory card reader , didn't like my USB gamepad) oh well , it was just an experiment !

anyone here can make a diagnosis from the small amount of info provided ?

well after running the make install command I got this error and being a Windows person have no idea why , or what it means ... [barry@localhost barry]$ cd /home/barry/Download/rt2400_linux [barry@localhost rt2400_linux]$ su [root@localhost rt2400_linux]# make install ========= Install RT2400 device driver and utility ========= make[1]: Entering directory `/home/barry/Download/rt2400_linux/rt2400_rh73' install rt2400.o /lib/modules/2.4.18-3 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/barry/Download/rt2400_linux/rt2400_rh73' alias ra0 rt2400 install: `./xwlan/' is a directory chmod: failed to get attributes of `/usr/local/bin/RaConfig': No such file or directory ./script/setupui: line 14: [: =: unary operator expected Configuration utility install to /usr/local/bin/RaConfig Install done!

ah cheers , was just coming back to say about that error , so move/copy instead , ok . I'd already extracted it manually through the .. hmm , explorer I suppose you would call it (and included archive program) , needed to find out how to navigate to the extracted files , I'll switch OS's again and try .

thanks , I'll print this then boot to Mandrake so I can try it , I know nothing of Linux so you definitely were not insulting my intelligence !

Just installed Mandrake 9.2 this morning , been rooting around between winxp and mandrake trying to work out how to install my Minitar wireless pci card in Linux , I downloaded 2 .tgz files from Minitar (one is a small update) but have no idea what to do with them , the mandrake help system has left me lost and unable to work it out , I think Im looking at it too much from a Windows user point of view ? Can someone send me roughly in the right direction .