seanmckinney

Ahhh would this be the explanation http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?mount+8. It worked, thanks, I copied "user" from the settings made 'by install' for other devices.

Just curious really as I can alway su to root and umount it. fstab contains the line //Mk4/250G /home/sean/samba_mounts/250G smbfs noauto,user It may be primitive but it works allowing me, as a user, to mount this but, as the same user, I cant umount it, I am just curious as to why I cant umount it? Thanks.

BINGO :D :D :D many thanks Ian.

Thanks Ian, unfortunately the Abit board wasnt working reliably so I will have to dig out and even older PC to try the network on, your help is appreciated though. 350 pentium II here we come.....

Ta, for both bits, the latter has just made me think, "when does an OS 'find' the new partition configurations". I suppose its common sense that that has occurred by the time that BIOS hands over control to LILO or that it is part of the hand over process. I'll have a play with one of the older PC's in case I beep beep things up.

I've been trying for a week and I haven't much hair left but there's less steam coming out of my ears now as I have found a Abit KR7 mo bo in the attic. So Ian if you have some answers to the problems I have encountered I'd be grateful to 'hear' them.

Ahh the problem has become irrelevant, the older mo bo just threw up its head in disgust at the abuse and died, the remaining backup pc's run pentium II and it isnt worth the bother of trying to network linux on them. I'll stick with a microsoft network. Thanks anyway

Thanks and ultimately I will get an up to date OS but that wouldnt necessarily teach me anything, solving this problem would, and I tend to learn more by fixing things than have them go smoothly This is XP's out put with DHcp enabled Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : whitehouse-mk2 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-4C-A8-97-8D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.81.178 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter Speedtouch Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 84.67.209.119 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 84.67.209.119 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.94 195.92.195.95 with both PC's setting their own dhcp I aam not sure whats happening this is the ifconfig for linux eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:EC:13:62:BD inet6 addr: fe80::216:ecff:fe13:62bd/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:31 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:5159 (5.0 Kb) TX bytes:4482 (4.3 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:12164 (11.8 Kb) TX bytes:12164 (11.8 Kb)

Hello kanoner Thanks for replying Re "Isn't 192.168.0.1 reserved for the router?" -------I wouldn't know but I could easily change the address settings if needs be. Besides which, if significant they are currently connected via a cross over cable although I do get the same results if I connect them via a router "why use Mandrake 10.1 and not mandrive 2008?" ----------I have 10.1 on a dvd. I'd have to buy 2008 and money's tight at the minute, the download would take me 3hr+ for each CD, I have had a look. I'd prefer cd's as I only have 1 dvd reader and swapping it about is becoming tiresome. "Are you sure you don't have the same IP on both machines when running mandrake (IP conflict)?" ----------No conflict I can ping 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2 "Also in XP you can see which dns server you should use by setting dynamic IP (recieve automaticly) and checking "ipconfig /all" in cmd. (Start --> run --> cmd -- ipconfig /all). Alternativ in mandrake as root "ifconfig" in a console window" --------I'll go and do that now heres the current state of play as reported by XP on 192.168.0.2 I have deleted the web IP incase that's a risk Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : whitehouse-mk2 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No PPP adapter Speedtouch Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.94 195.92.195.95 Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Controller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-4C-A8-97-8D Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.4 10.0.0.6 this is the linux output from 192.168.0.1 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:EC:13:62:BD inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:195.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::216:ecff:fe13:62bd/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:77 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:67 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:9614 (9.3 Kb) TX bytes:8250 (8.0 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe400 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:118 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:118 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:8632 (8.4 Kb) TX bytes:8632 (8.4 Kb I see one 'problem'(is it a problem?) immediately the broadcast address is wrong..............now that's interesting on the mandrake pc I can ping 195.168.0.255 ........... trying to ping 195.168.0.anything times out on the XP machine

OK 2 PC's both dual boot XP/mandrake 10.1. I have a working network when both PC's are running XP, but when one PC is running XP and the other PC is running Mandrake or when both PC's are running Mandrake I DO NOT have a fully working network. In the mandrake to XP networks and the mandrake to mandrake network I can ping by IP address successfully but I CAN NOT ping by PC name. The IP addresses are "static"? on both PC's with one being 192.168.0.1 and the other being 192.168.0.2 . I am not certain what to set the "DNS server" addresses to and I seem to be getting differnet opinions over what I should set as DNS server addresses. I would like the names of the PC's to be, for 192.168.0.1 Mk3, and, for 192.168.0.2 Mk2. Curiously from the PC running XP, currently this one i.e. Mk2, I can see and read the contents of a 'shared' directory on the PC running Mandrake BUT I CAN NOT see anything of the XP PC on the Mandrake PC. I attempted to set up and or use Samba but its use 'crashed' when it couldnt find 'the other' PC by name. Going from what I can see on XP, XP setup a network by the name of Mshome, Mandrake set up a network by the name of Mdkgroup. I am obbviously faling to understand something in the network setup process and would be grateful if some one would walk me through it. Thanks

First thing, I recently installed Mandrake 10 in a PC with an Elitegroup K8M800-M2 motherboard. I had at the time 3 HDD's'in the PC, these HDD,s are IDE HDD not SATA. I noticed that mandrake saw primary master as hde and primary slave and hdf, I dont remember how it saw the 3rd HDD which was secondary slave. I thought nothing of primary master being hde etc and put it down to the 'odd' setup I had. BUT I have just reinstalled mandrake in the PC but with only 1 HDD present, a 320G maxtor, it is still seen as hde, :unsure:. A simple question, why is primary master being seen as hde and not hda? With XP on one HDD and Mandrake on another HDD and both being the only OS and HDD in the PC during their installation both HDD's have their own MBR's, if I then put the HDD's in with the XP HDD as primary master and the Mandrake HDD as primary slave the PC boots, as expected, to XP. I can however select the boot device during POST? and if I select the 'boot primary slave' I get to LILO on the primary slave. From there if I choose to boot linux the boot crashes, I think with the message "cant find INIT". I would guess that this is due to LILO being configured for the situation when mandrake was on hde and since it is now on hdf all the boot settings are wrong. I believe that you are supposed to be able to use the installation CD/DVD via the rescue mode to correct the 'error' in LILO but I havent been able to get that to work yet. I also think that a run through the update mode would 'correct' LILO but I was wondering................... During a recue mode attempt, is it possible from the command line to 'edit LILO' to fit the new circumstances? To my uninformed mind whatever portion of LILO is at work during this early stage of the boot process it is essentially going "oi put 'this' 'here' and 'that' 'there' " the problem being that these are screwed up Thanks

Ahhh Under Mandrake I have just added a directory /home/sean/shared and made, from emacs, the file "new.txt" in there and it is visible via XP. The 2nd network now shows up again and its name is Mdkgroup which 'contains' the folder "samba server3.0.2a" which in turn contains "sean_shared" which contains the file new.txt I guess I was further on than I thought and have to figure this samba thing out now. Sorry it was in the wrong place [moved from Software by spinynorman - welcome aboard :)]