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I have installed moz firebird on my win2k box, so far so good... Now I need to take some of the steps to eradicate my Really Hidden Files from my years of using IE. Has anyone here performed any of the recommended steps to clean out your MS spy files (in other words, has anyone here done steps 3.1 through 4 from the f**kmicrosoft site under the section called Really Hidden Files) ? Although I don't intend to use IE on my winbox anymore, I don't want to trash it by deleting crap that may be in some way important ...

yes, the f**kmicrosoft site was pretty interesting, and the Really Hidden Files is definately scary. Every day I learn something else about my winbox that shows it is really my enemy. At least I have abandoned MS Office on my winbox, and am now using OOo 1.1. Guess its time now to dump IE and install Moz Firebird or something, after I go thru all the hassle of getting rid of my hidden history. I don't think I've been a naughty boy in quite some time, but might as well be safe....

edit: oops posted to wrong thread... never mind

I read in a Linux mag, Linux Format I think, that when you are setting up apt-get for a rh system not to include any fedora repositories or else you will screw up your system. And vice versa, for a fedora system, do not include any rh repositories (ie freshrpms, etc). Something about that the freshrpms et al repositories use a different versioning system than what fedora decided to use. Therefore, mixing the repositories would confuse your apt set up.

On my win2k box, I did what FX said. On my linux box, I'm not sure what to do. I went into Printer Configuration, Add a New Print Queue, named the printer (just "printer"), Select a Queue Type - "Networked CUPS (IPP)". Then it asks for a server name and a path. It already fills in the path (/printers/queue1) but what about the server name? Other options for Queue Type are: Networked UNIX (LPD), Networked Windows (SMB), locally connected, and a couple of others. Note: I didn't "apply" anything on the linux box, I was just looking, but not changing anything...

I have a win2k box and a RH9 box both connected to a dhcp router. I am using both machines separately so far, both have dsl internet access. I have a HP 5550 printer directly connected to my win2k machine and I was wondering if I could easily print to that printer from my linux box...? Does this require samba? I don't really need file sharing capabiliity just yet, just to be able to print from both machines. I would like to have file sharing ability later, but that will be another thread if necessary... :unsure:

you're right, I never noticed

thanks for all the comments. I tried to post once or twice in the middle of this thread, but always got a Not Logged In error Anyway, in the beginning I was kind of curious who here knew python. I see that nobody went into a Career discussion. I suppose Java would be much more helpful - I don't see any ads for python people... The reason I started this thread was because of my browsing thru python books at the bookstores, and also the fact that one of the authors of the 3 Java books that I have (Murach's Beginning Java 2, Thinking in Java, Head First Java by O'Reilly) says in the beginning of the book that Python is the best OO language out there. I don't remember which book said that, but I think it was Thinking in Java. Right now I am reading a general OO book that helps me re-teach my linear-thinking brain to think in terms of objects. btw - can one of the Board Bosses change the title of this thread back to the correct title - Java vs Python for your first OO language

My choices are either taking the Java course and reading up & practicing it on my own, with help from the instructor if I need.... or... Learning python completely on my own, with no college course.... I know I can get java help on this board, I've seem to remember phunni mentioning that he was a java instructor (or used to be?) and I know other people here know java. So who's the local python expert here...? hmmm... I think I'll take the java course first, then if I'm comfortable with java, maybe play around with python a little

I've mentioned a couple of time here that I wanted to learn OO (I know cobol and other procedural langs) and I wanted to take a Java elective class at college. I have not enrolled yet, but I have purchased a few java books (Murach's, Head first Java, Thinking in Java). However, I have also been browsing thru Python books and reading up on the web about people's thoughts about it. Seems many people think python makes a better first OO language than java (since it is supposedly easier to learn). Maybe it doesn't really matter. any thoughts ?

thanks fuzzylizard. That's what I was wondering about. When talking to the instructor (actually by email) he suggested not waiting, since he thought it didn't really matter. He said the course assumes some C++ knowledge, but that any programming experience was helpful. I don't know if the course will teach much in the way of fundamentals of oop. Based on your comments, I'm gonna go ahead and enroll in it. He wasn't sure when he "new" updated course would be ready anyway. He said the course would be writing applets and stuff. I was just using AWT / Swing as an example. I didn't know if they were kind of related or completely different. If learning AWT would not help me in any way, I would not want to waste time learning it. But if it would be helpful to know AWT, I don't mind learning it. Its just that if modern Java apps use swing for gui stuff, I didn't know if I wanted to learn gui stuff using awt....

I'm wanting to enroll in a java class at my college (an elective). The course currently uses a java book that is maybe 2 years old, and the course includes AWT and maybe some other "old" stuff. I have spoken with the instructor and he says that the course is being "re-done" to go along with the newer textbooks, and the "new" course should be ready after the beginning of the year. I wanted to enroll in the course awhile back, but I chose to wait since I did not want to learn "old stuff". For example, one of my java books says that it no longers covers AWT since that is "old", and it covers swing instead. So, should I have waited, or is it really no big deal...? I am a total java beginner (even an oop beginner). I just didn't want to learn "old" stuff. Why should I waste my time learning how java "used to be"?

thanks for the link, illogic-al It has been buggin' me for awhile that shockwave doesn't work when I'm on my linux box. My son likes to play some games on miniclip.com (they use shockwave) and all he gets is a blank screen when he goes there while in linux. I also sent in the feature request / bug report.

I'll have to check out Running Linux again next time I'm at the bookstore. I was never interested in it before because I think the 3rd edition was the one that was out for a long time, and maybe it had an old date like "1999" or something.... I think they have released a 4th edition now, so I'll make a point to look at it again...

I read somewhere (amazon.com I think) about someone suggesting that a good "general purpose, do everything book" would be one of the cert books - like a Linux+ book, or RHCE book or like that. Because they basically tell how to do everything and are even helpful to beginners, who could then "grow" into the more advanced topics. Anyway, I still can't find a good "one book tells all", but after looking thru some of the "cert" books, I agree that they do seem good. I may decide on one of those. Not exactly "linux" books, but a couple of books I just bought are: Thinking in Java, by Eckel Head First Java, by ?? I forget oh yeah... Oracle 9i for Dummies :? I broke my "no dummies books" rule on that one... It seems like a good book though I like the "casual" writing style of the Head First book. Makes learning more enjoyable. Its put out by O'Reilly.

:lol: I'm not THAT bad... and I'm trying to avoid the "Dummies" series... SOME of the "dummies" books are pretty well written, but some of them are just all jokes and no "meat"... Plus I'm trying to stay out of the mind-set that I'm a "Dummy" or a "Complete Idiot"... :? One of these evenings, I'm not gonna do anything except check out the net for all the linux "help" sites (linuxnewbie, blah blah) and find a few I like....

I'll probably go to the next meeting (November) just to see what its like. I hope its not people sitting down and listening to a speaker for the whole meeting. I'd rather it be a "social occasion" where everyone is walking around talking about linux and picking up tips & tricks here and there... As they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words...". So if someone actually shows me on a computer how something works, I would learn much more than just reading a bunch of threads here. Not to say I don't learn anything here... I do !!

as spiny suggested... I just googled linux +LUG +"my city" first hits were a LUG right here in my own city... (anything I want to know, I just google it... :lol: )

thanks, I'll try that later when I get home. Way back when I originally wanted to put java on my redhat box, I googled apt-get +java, but it seemed there was a licensing problem or something that prevented using apt-get for java. doh !! I always try the easiest ways first... :lol:

Just the mailing list so far. Haven't been to any meetings (they hold them monthly at a local college). I hope it works out for me. I will be happy if its noobie friendly, and not just a bunch of linux system administrators talking about intrusion detection and stuff like that... :roll:

sorry, my mind is elsewhere... I'm getting behind in my Database course - I am supposed to be learning Oracle 9i nd SQL (I have it on my win2k machine) so this java install has kind of moved to the back of my mind... yep, I see now what you mean: $ ls /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_05/jre/plugin/i386/ns610 libjavaplugin_oji.so you were right, its different than what I thought.

I will be taking a college course in java in a couple of months. Its an elective for my IT degree, so its probably fairly lightweight. It will be mostly doing applets. I do have java installed and working correctly on my win2k box, I've entered a few small programs (from examples in books) and they compile properly and run properly on my win box. I also installed Eclipse on my win2k box. on my linux box, I'd like to pop in the "hello, world" program, compile it, and see if it runs. Simplest way to do that ?? I guess I can use vi to put it in.

$ ls /usr bin etc include kerberos libexec sbin src X11R6 dict games java lib local share tmp $ ls /usr/java j2sdk1.4.1_05 $ ls /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_05/ bin demo jre LICENSE README src.zip COPYRIGHT include lib man README.html $ file /usr/bin/mozilla /usr/bin/mozilla: Bourne shell script text executable edit: Yes, I am using moz 1.4

I'm gonna flip thru a few of the books mentioned above, next time I'm at Borders or B&N. I'm not really "scared" of this linux stuff, its just different. When I was younger, like back in the mid-80's to early 90's - I really loved DOS - I suppose I was a DOS "power user...". I wasn't interested in win 3.1 when it was getting popular in the early 90s. "drag & drop..." - what the hell did that mean... :? However, after dragging & dropping for 10 years now, and being older and with a family & career, I just don't have the patience that I did back in my 20s. That's why I'd like a general book that has the daily basics that you need to know.. like installing from tars, fs basics, what certain files do and how to edit them safely, what NOT to screw around with... :? and stuff like that. Plus I can leave it on the magazine rack in our bathroom, and have something to read while I'm sittin' .. 8)

ok, I agree with the "won't find apt-get discussed in a Red Hat book..." thing. I know that there are lots of actual Red Hat Press books about RedHat, and I would not expect to find (non-redhat) neat stuff in those books... The books I was looking at were just large books about rh 9 - Not published by Red Hat Press. Therefore, it would make sense to find chapters like "look at this cool way you can install software... it's called apt - it doesn't actually come with your red hat distro BUT here's how to get it and how to use it..." If I ever see a book with "hacking" in the title, I figure its over my head... :? I'm gonna look at some of the Linux+ books. I think they have large sections regarding ALL methods of installing software... and I would be studying for a certification at the same time... yeah right, me linux certified :?