bradcarter

There can be significant differences between the distros. Ussually each disto will add its own patches to the kernel (some like gentoo give you the option of the vanilla kernel) Some add patches and will use a different kernel config by default which can lead to stablity or proformance issues. Add this to a list of other things and those differences can add up

I run Gentoo, I really really like it. I did the install from stage 1, went very smooth. You just print and follow the install docs pretty much to the letter and it will go well. I notice a bit of a proformance boost, though nothing extream. The best thing about gentoo I think is portage and the fact that if you keep all the packages updated you will have the latest gentoo. to install things all you have to do is type emerge programName then it will check out all the dependacies and install them automatically. For example typing "emerge kde" (before you have installed X and all that) it will see that you need X and these other packages, then it will download all the sources and compile them. Drawbacks: -getting the base system setup takes a fair bit of time -a bit of a learning curve at the start if you are not used to editing config files by hand. the last drawback after you get used to it is not a drawback as I have learned so much One good thing is during the install your computer is still usable. During the install I surfed with lynx including reading the forums :) But once done you will know just how much the mandrake installer and tools do for you

Does he really think that there are no developments to the systems, as in Unix is exactly the same code (minus bug fixes) that has been around since the 1970's give me a break! lol I was worth a laugh

I could be wrong but ussally when you attempt to remove files that are needed using the software manager it will tell you XXXXX.file is needed by XXXX.file2 so you should be safe uninstalling thing. You may want to wait for a second oppinion though ;)

I have put it http://www.php-scripter.com/downloads/wampager incase anyone else reads the thread and has the same problem. (rightclick and save as on the link) tar is not working for some reason so I cannot packager it up the only file produced is the bianary wampager file, I cannot see anything to customize it unfortuantly but if you figure something out let me know

it has been sent hope it works. Gentoo can use rpm's I just dont know if it can make them. I dont think a lot of people use the rpm package, I dont because the portage system is quite nice (slow for the full install though) Using Gentoo actually made me apreciate just how much the mandrake installer and tools do for you

Why cannot Mandrake sell download comercial versions? I realize one of the big reasons to buy the boxed set is the manuals, but I would buy and burn the commercial version if they sold it in that way. Ive seen it done this way before if you buy the download it is i $30 and if you but the commercial it is $50 for example. This is based off of that I think some of the commercial apps are included with the comercial version

Ok I am on Gentoo, would I be able to give you a compiled version of the pager if I can find all of the files and tell you where to put them? or if someone could tell me how to make a rpm I could give that a go too

Try replacing <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="770" align="center"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"><img src="images/header.png" alt="PenguinPC A beginners guide to Linux" width="770" height="80"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" border="1" width="770" align="center" bgcolor="#cccccc"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><small>General Information</small></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>The Linux Desktop</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Linux Applications</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Tricks & Tips</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Advanced Topics</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Useful Links</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Contact Us</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>About Us</small></a></b><br> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> with: <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="770" align="center"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"><img src="images/header.png" alt="PenguinPC A beginners guide to Linux" width="770" height="80"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" border="1" width="770" align="center" bgcolor="#cccccc"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><small>General Information</small></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>The Linux Desktop</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Linux Applications</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Tricks & Tips</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Advanced Topics</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Useful Links</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>Contact Us</small></a></b><br> </td> <td valign="top" align="center"><b><a href="http://www.com.com"><small>About Us</small></a></b><br> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> please excuse the tabbing, I cut and pasted and typed it into here so it is going to look messed up. It is also untested of course but should work. Basically all it I did is put one table inside the other one (you actually didnt need the table for the image originally as it was all by itslelf, but I used the table the image was in to hold the menu table as well.

Now I would remove the gap between the graphic and the menu, I think that would make things a bit better :)

We are at RC6 which is hopefully the last RC. Anyone heard any rumours about the potential final release date? I run Waimea if not that fluxbox but I am biting at the bit to give the final kde 3.1 a go

The way I get pager to run at start up is to have a called with autostart.sh with this in it: xmms & gkrellm2 -w & wampager & Esetroot /home/brad/.waimea/backgrounds/valley2k.jpg (the other stuff optional ;)) then I add rootCommand: sh /home/brad/.waimea/styles/autostart.sh to the bottom of my blah.style file. Seems to work well for me :) I cant help with the compile errors though, I am on Gentoo

:) thats the one, though if you want my desktop, I got the image from http://www.digitalblasphmy.com and the rest was by tweeking. I could let you or anyone else download it. Oh and if you do use Waimea I really recomend using its pager, without it it is very hard to see where you are sitting. I use a 3X3 desktop and before I had the pager I sometimes lost where I was

It is mozilla 1.2 with the breeze theme :)

I have been using Waimea for a while now and quite like it here is an old screenshot, I have an new background image now http://www.php-scripter.com/pit/mountainskin2.jpg which I am going to change as for some reason with no windows open it makes my monitor flicker