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  1. The CISC chips get more and more complex by adding more supprt onto the actual CPU. This started with new instruction sets to do something repetitive faster. i386 was the first 32bit intel capable chip. This means in theory it can address 4TB of memory ...It can't becuase the bios support on the motherboard doesn't allow it.... Anyway, further along in history we got the pentium i586. This added more instreuctions (not to mention the inability not to be able to do simple arithmetic) :D Then came the PII- and PII MMX - This added multimedia specific instruction sets. Then we kept adding and adding ... Anyway, until the 64bit Intel/AMD the whole was backwards compatibe with i386. That is if you compiled for i386 it just didn't use the advanced offloading of MM etc. CASE <gentoo> do aside CASE <slackware> do aside CASE RH do <no aside> end CASE Aside: Certain fanatics (:D t) want to use the processor they paid for and therefore use distro's that compile everything for their processor. We argue about whether it really makes much diferenece ... I didn't bite at first but boot-up Isn't a valid test. Try using multimedia etc and see what differences it makes there. #fall-through End Aside No aside: So using the specific architecture allows you to take better advantage of the CPU you paid for. However, since people want click and install pre-compiled packages exist. Linux doesn't just run on Intel/AMD through... It runs on SPARC, SPARCII, POWER 4, SGI RX000..... not tomention Motorola MAC, PDA's and dah dah dah. When people develop software they might package it or not. Someone else may package it for them and create an RPM/DEB .. But no-one says you must do it for all architectures... in fact they are only likely to do it for architectures they have. So the source code is always available (if its GPL) and if you want the best performance you'll compile it yourself. This is a personal decision and not always as easy... If its mutlimedia intensive the good idea. Kernel good idea. A little utility using <1% CPU probably not worth the hassle.... Not everything needs to run REALLY fast. Take a mail sender. If it takes 1 sec or 1.1 sec to start-up its no big deal... If I'm ripping a DVD then I'd expect a bigger difference. If you do want to compile your own then recomile GCC and GDB etc. for your archtitecture...
  2. By default grip places the mp3 files and the m3u's in a directory <home>/mp3 I'll assume you are less familair with the Command Line Interface (CLI) ~ stands for anyones home directory, you can use it in scripts/config's used by more than one person. Config/Encode/Options ~/mp3/%A-%d.m3u So you should make sure it still says this and that you do have access to this directiry. If you copied all your MP3 directory using a different account (like root) when you upgraded then root will have ownership. Open a terminal/console/ ls -l mp3 If you dont own it you can use the chown command to give your self access. Comfirm the above and I'll type more.... if relevant
  3. Well, thx texstar. Worked for me, I only got my DSL switched on by the phone company this morning and Ive already done a few GB of downloads. 300MB of damned updates first .. I just added to my sources. The plf (thanks guys) :tux:easy urmpi worked great for me. http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon Then just used the fixed RPMDRAKE I finally got ... Anyway, between texstar and the plf guys I now have a 'working' 9.1.....
  4. Its pretty rare for NIC's to be incompatible. Modems and USB stuff yes but NIC's are basically pretty standard. I've never had one that doesn't work. If you have a spare slot theyre 10 quid or so anyway. Ive loads spare and I'd mail one but it would probably cost more than you can buy one for. Does that mean your USB modems working by the way? If so you could check out later versions of the driver for the SIS.
  5. I sorta thought the same thing, it was I started using it for kmail and then got used to it but I never hated gnome. I can't understand the posts slagging off one vs the other, thats why I asked: like am I just to stupid to see something obvious.
  6. Accoring to /boot you are running the vanilla kernel. Quite where XFree is getting the SMP part from is beyond me. Try a uname -a Another questrion, did you install the mandrake updates? Given the problem with your modem I'm guessing not. The Mandrake tools had lots of updates, havn't checked this specifically but it might be a reason. I'd very seriously disguard it for now becuase XFDrake hasn't worked and try an alternative. xf86config (CLI) or even just a XFree86 -configure Once its working better you are in a more stable position to play with it. When Ive been working on complex multihead stuff, back when Xinerama was brand new I always kept a default failsafe XF86config I could fall back on for tweaking. Unless your running a laptop I'd consider getting a different card though. The maintainer is doing a good job but its not so good as a Martox or NVIDIA etc. Its only a 32MB card so if you shop around bargain basement you'll probably find something better supported with better or equal performace for 30 quid. I still use a old Matrox MGA 400 on one box. To be honest it has a SIS built in graphics card which did work but the matrox is so better supported. I'm waiting for my home DSL connection and only got a phone 2 days ago so I just went for the easy option with the old Matrox. The old Matrox BB was excellent and a guy called ben used to answer all the linux stuff really quickly. Regarding the modem, I'm also lazy. I just bought a ADSL ethernet one. it cost me an extra 30 quid over the usb but theres no messing about or driver issues since its directly from the NIC which is already working fine. I probably have the config for the speedtouch on my ISP CD though so I can mail it if you can't find it elsewhere....
  7. Whats, that? Did you say, i can't be sure I lost my attention half way through your reply. Anyway, I agree but I still think WEBMIN etc. are pretty good GUI (well browser based) configurers. WEBMIN in particular is good fro professional sysad work. I never really liked the E250's. Always seemed a bit of a comprimise over a E450. To my mind if you use a top end server as opposed to a intel box you should be doing it for a reason. The E450 was a way superior machine in terms of the bus architecture and processor suppot and in someways misplaced by Sun (IMHO). I replaced a couple of E3000's and E4000 series with it and it paid for itself in maintainance contracts alone. Why pay E3000-4000 prices for everything from memory to software licenses when the E450 did it better. The only thing missing was complete failover which really never quite worked enough for me to hotplug a 300 series anyway. Why take the chance if you can bounce it at lunch in ten minutes? We had a E3000 where the backplane kept failing and stuck a E450 replacement. Said sun vendor wanted to seel us as second in a cluster! since we basically needed a NFS servr and an Oracle server it was easier/cheaper (since we only needed 99.9% uptime) to just configure the Oracle Server to run the NFS as well and visa vera with a manual reboot. We never actually needed to do it the E450 was rock solid. Just got two E280R's at work for running Tarantella. IMHO a complete waste of money since all we need is high CPU and memory. Could have stuck a couple of Intel Linux boxes in for 1/4 of the price and double the perfomance.
  8. I figure the 80/20 rule. If you learn a RH based/RPM based distro then you just say you used redhat but stuck to CLS tools or webmin etc. in order not to rely too much on one vendor. pkgadd is still the Solaris tool of chioce for me for new Solaris stuff.... Your differences are really mainly cosmetic if you stick to RH based distros whereas you might learn more with LFS and Gentoo etc. and the portage stuff is pretty cool. LFS is a base, theres already beyond LFS but thats not the point, you download XFree source and comile it.... by the time youve finished LFS that's a trivial task. :-) In the end its more important to try and stick vendor independent with regard to your use of configuration tools and that way you can switch and even apply it directly to OS-X ... (OK BSD might bemore appropraite but...)
  9. The Board: Hold off guys, he doesn't realise what he said. Steve, ever heard of DLL's and vxd's. Seriously, a .o extension in linux is a module file. Now in windows DLL's and vxd's overwrite each other. In windows they don't. The instalation files for windows are provided by the hardware manufactuerers wheras 95% of linux ones are producced by volunteers with or without the collaboration of the manufacturer. If your install is reasonably new type If it doesn't find it perhaps its added since the database behinf locate was updated. type updatedb as root. Try the locate again. Assuming its found then copy it where its meant to go. cd to the dirctory its in then cp mgmt.o /<pathprovidedbymessage>/ If you didn't find it this time its time to find it on the install CD's. Start RPMDRAKE from the configuration/packaging menu and click on the search for files. Type the name and it 'should' find the package. click to install and try again. If it still needs moving just copy it as above. If you are completely without it I have the Wanadoo CD at home and I think it has the linux drivers on. Its weekend and I'm waiting for France Telecom to switch on my new ADSL so get back to me soon. Worst case I'll hook up a modem and email it to you.
  10. I can't see why all the slanging about gnome vs kde. Perhaps I'm just nieve but what the big fuss. I started using KDE before evolution becuase kmail was good for me and starting the whole DCOP server for one app seemed as waste. I mean they're both fine desktops I just started using KDE more and liked it and it stuck. (perhaps I m getting old). I also stopped using RH partly becauuse of the KDE vs RH war parly becuae of glibc issues in 7.0!! Some really good kde stuff has come out like k3rb etc. which has kept me with it but seriously what am I missing. In same vein as thread. Serious points not mindless slanging matches.
  11. I'm kinda at a loss why it installed the SMP kernel unless you do have 2 processors. I'm at my windows machine at work so this is why im a bit vague about exact details. When i say something its probably 90% accurate in regards to an exact filename or directory etc. so you shouldn't follow blindly. Look on the bright side, yuor learning ahell of a lot. You might not think so right now but next time you have a minor glitch you'll look back and see how much youve learned. That a big plus on linux becuase in windows the deinsstall-reinstall-reboot-dah dah dah might eventually solve it but all you learned is reboot and reinstall. I got your abc files and Im having a look but you havn't actually altered the monitor timings to what I said in the XF86Config-4. aka Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "HSL" ModelName "H530" # Option "DPMS" HorizSync 30-61 VertRefresh 56-76 You said Hs 48hz and Vf 60 so this isn't going to work ;-) Regarding your kernel config, the vanilla one will supercede it so it won't matter in the end. Other than that it looks like it should work. Only glitch is its trying to use DRI but it isn't supported. It reposrts handling it OK but it won't hurt to disable specifically. specifically, about using the Drake tool: From http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml Anyway, disregarding that you can boot into failsafe. Just do it. Ask Nike say. OK so lets assume you get X up and working and your logged in. Ok kill dm,kdm,mdkdm or gdm whichever your running. (if you don't know how ask) Now open a console su to root and type init 3 OK your graphical environment should dissapear and you will be at a login so login....as yourself. Now type startx. You probably just get x with no window manager and a console but don't worry at this point. You have two main options: Xvidtune or xf86config. You main problem seems to be timings and both of these are good for modifying them. So does it still work at this point. type xf86cfg as root in a console. Does it work? If not as a root prompt urmpi X11R6-contrib-4.3-5mdk.i586.rpm Let it install and try again.... Assuming it does you can see the configuration graphically. You can then check the monitor stuff etc. Have a try. Now there is a specific page for video timings. Try playing about. Do something becuase then it will rewrite the timings. If these timings still work then cool. Now use ctrl alt bkspc to close the xserver. restart it with startx Is everthing OK? . OK then kill it again and back at the console as root type init 5 OK you should get the login. Log -in. Everything still OK? Ok log out and reboot. try the normal kernel. (default) Is it still working.... OK .. cool its fixed NO: OK lets change your kernel. Back to a failsafe bootup. Now type urmpi kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and add the documentation for good measure. urmpi kernel-doc-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm and source kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk.i586.rpm Try and do this all in order. Edit the values first and make sure about the timings you quoted from your manual. GOOD LUCK
  12. Wow I aint even going to compete with dOlsen... Instead I'll address the issue of why are there so many distro's. Thats Linux, everyone can do it so lots of people do. Why does a dog lick it balls? Becuase it can! So its possible to do it, even feasible with pateience and hard work and the rewards in knowledge are tremendous. They learn a lot and generally wanna show other people and share. The problem here is the victims of theoir own sucess. Somewhere commercialisation takes over once you get in the top ten. Some start out that way like Lindows/Lycoris/Corel-Xandros and other are just victims of sucess. However every new one brings new features and ideas. Portage for instance with Gentoo. Features wise its a leapfrog game. Latest Kernel means better device support etc. This keeps pushing Linux forward in general so in effect everyone is working together for a kickass operating system. My first distro (if you could call it that by todays standards) was Slackware 2.0. If you compare that to a modern (Mdk 9+, RH 9+, Xandros, just tkae your pick) its unbeleiveable. Compare Windows 3.11 to XP and the differences really aren't that big. (if you really consider what you can and can't do) I still have a Win98 VMWARE session but thats it. More importantly compare Word XP to Word 2.0 and its hard to actually see many genuinely useful aditions. Those that are (like html editing) are so contaminated they are next to useless. Now compare OO or pick your fav office suite and compare that to what was aroun in 92-93 for linux and you'll see how far and fast its developed. I think the distro competition has in many ways accelerated Linux into something that has grown so fast its unbelievable.
  13. Kill your dm manually with a kill -9 then init 3 (I'm taking you know how to ps -ef and git the pid. If not just ask) then try a reboot from RL 3 IF this works you know its something in the graphical interface.
  14. I completely agree with aru on this point. Distro specific tools are OK but 9.1 (without updates) in particular is very buggy. I had the same problems as you but just deleted the lock and did it from the prompt. If you rely on specific tools you lock yourself into one distro and Linux is about choice. Ive noticed that most of the tools don't actually work, esecially server config ones like squid. They were trying to run as root which for a proxy server is a horrendously bad idea. When I changed it to run as squid (after adduser) I had to recursively change directory permissions. I like using linuxconf or Webmin as graphical tools and seeing the command line for fine control. The big problem with the Drake tools is really the lack of the user understanding what they are doing. All very well whilst it works but as soon as it doesn't the user is screwed. At least Webmin and linux conf tell you which files are being edited. I find the lack of control/ giving knowledge in the drak tools really Windows like and that's definately a bad thing.
  15. Pzatch: According to the driver maintainer the SIS driver won't do pixel interpolation. In other words he needs to use it as 1024x768. If anyone else (tyme I know you did) checked the link out and thinks I'm wrong then say so becuase I only have limited time. All: If anyone thinks spinynorman shouldn't get rid of SMP kernel say now!! spinyNorman: I can't remember exact details. My guess is you will have to add it to lilo afterwards. You just need to copy it to /boot which the rpms will do. The defauly kernel is actually a sym link from vmlinuz -> kernel you are running. I THINK you could just change the symlink. Editing lilo is pretty easy but please use a pure text editor. It is very picky about extra lines, hidden characters. Remember you need to run lilo afterwards. You can copy the previous entry and just add the kernel you want in place of the vmlinuz. Its important to install from rpm becuase all your modules are compiled for that kernel and the rpm should also install the modules.
  16. OK, there are different kernels depending on the type of support you compile in. (from a Mandrake option point of view) According to the XF86config its reporting the fact you are using SMP (symetrical mutli processor) When you comile from source and run configure you get to choose which options to compile in. These range from modules which can be dynamically loaded through to hardcoded drivers (i.e. you need the IDE driver compiled in the kernel becuase you need your disk to boot!) SMP gives the option for multi processors. Its a don't use unless you have to option! If you look in /boot you will see the different stock kernels copied at install time. You should have the vanilla Linux 2.4.21-0.13mdk_i686 This indicates kernel major/minor releases 2.4.21 and the mdk versions 0.13 and the fact its optimised for pentium II and above. You can add the stock kernel from the cd's, recompile your own (maybe leave for a rainy day). If you have 1GB (forget exact number) of memory you need to use the Kernel Enterprise, if not the stock one is safer. I don't know why or how but it might have something to do with your problems and its worth replacing anyway. I'll copy the email to the BB. Steve
  17. First things, spinyNorman sent the whole log by email: now can you also send the XF86Config-4? OK, I see your using the SMP kernel. Anyone know if failsafe switches to a single processor kernel??? If you aren't using two processors its best to use the stock MDK kernel. Ok looked through everthing in the log. It definitively tells me the monitor values are from the setting in monitor 1. Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "HSL" ModelName "H530" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 30-61 VertRefresh 56-76 So, without looking at documentation I'm not sure if you can pass a single value so try this. Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "HSL" ModelName "H530" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 30-48 VertRefresh 30-60 waiting for XF86Config....
  18. spinyNorman You still have the timings for the sony Viao screen but notice this is 1024x480 NOT 1024x768. This is becuase the viao has one of those squashed screens with a different aspect ratio. Your monitor is specified as HorizSync 30-61 VertRefresh 56-76 Whereas you say its HorizSync 48 VertRefresh 60 When it starts up it probes for values which aren't specified. The actual values have to be something supported by the video chip. If you check you'll see: (II) SIS(0): 1024x768@60Hz Its picking up (**) SIS(0): *Default mode "1024x768": 78.7 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (II) SIS(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync from your config it seems to have picked up ModeLine "1024x480" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync and its trying to use it as 1024x768 but the timings are all screwed up because this relates to the viao screen. You can't use that line, it doesn't fit the capabilites of your monitor BUT more importantly we know from the SIS driver maintainer that it doesn't support interpolation so I doubt it will ever work. I know its long but if you could post the whole file it would be clearer. Same goes for your XF86Config. These things can be really annoying, have you considered a better supported card? If you post everything I'll look through, its a bit of a dark art for me I'm afraid but I have got really awkward video stuff to work before :-) As an alternative: If you can change to booting failsafe and then run xf86cfg you have a more flexible way to play with the modes and write a new XF86Config file. xf86cfg is on the Mandrake disks if you did't install it.
  19. You could use a PCMCIA NIC and do a network install! Haven't done one in ages but the easiest was using an NFS mount if I remember.
  20. In the end they have lost my faith. I'm a big believer that things should work commerically and I'm starting to think they've lost it. At the back of my mind I expect they'll just tell me to reurn it to the store! Then the store will argue its opened... sooner or later my French will run out when I get frustrated and I'll have achieved nothing. As it happened I bought this set from a different FNAC becuase it was a sunday and I was just dying to get 9.1 Its a real detour to go back tot he one on the Champs de Elisee just to be put in a retailer/vendor circle. I agree with you I should and Manadrkae should wake up but I feel like I had enough effort. I beta tested 9.0rc2, along with almost everyone we complained about the new RPMDRAKE, their answer it was being rewitten in Perl so it was changing.... We all said it sucked but they didn't listen and that's the feeling they leave me with right now. Its sad but Ive seen a lot of companies go under through not listening to their clients but ultimately I guess that why some well known support/developers are leaving....
  21. If your booted up in failsafe and everything works then as pointed out the difference is a couple of options in the power management. I guess this could be interfering with power saving on the monitor ?? If the Drake tools havn't worked then I'd try another. Personally xf86cfg works well, I use it especially for mlti-head configs but you can also play with mode timings directly. One nice thing is you can add another card and another monitr and not 'connect them', just make them copies of whats working at the moment then you can try deleting or adding options. From the ACPI stuff I'd get rid of power saving stuff for now. from a quick look comment out Option DPMS OK Ill write the file ::::NOTE your using vesa not the SIS driver !! You still need your layout and keyb mouse parts .... Do this uin run level 3 - then you can CTRL+ALT+BKSPC out and edit if it goes to sh**. Once its loaded you need to change the VESA for the SIS driver....Make sure to comment out the DPMS options for now. Section "Monitor" Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Generic" ModelName "Flat Panel 1024x768" HorizSync 48 VertRefresh 60 #I think you can specify an exact timing. #My guess is the same chipset is used in the viao, just comment this out # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync #ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -sync -vsync #This might prove useful later !!! # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync #ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync #ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 #EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "device1" Driver "vesa" #Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultColorDepth 16 #Subsection "Display" #Depth 8 #Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #EndSubsection #Subsection "Display" #Depth 15 #Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #EndSubsection #This is the safest bet, just get xf86cfg running and you can add more. Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" #EndSubsection # Notice I deleted the other resolutions according to the driver it won't support them. #Subsection "Display" #Depth 24 #Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" #EndSubsection EndSection
  22. I think an urmpi.update is in order anyway. I keep getting the everything is alreay installed (this isn't supposed to happen) thing anyway. I want it based on the user local as I have seperate users for different languages.
  23. Gowator

    Russian to English

    I can but very slowly. Haven't used my Russian in a long time and if it was me I'd try and just get the manual in English but if you have specific's I could !!!
  24. I used to use gnome but ... I know its got a lot better but I'd be interested to know what exactly makes people wanna pee. I'm happy with it but perhaps naieve... Evolution is a biggy, I originally switched becuase of kmail but I realise that's supplanted by evolution but what else???
  25. Your right its just I can't be bothered anymore. Where do you report it for one. They have taken all the stuff away they profess to read. Last time I sent a email to customer service who repsonded by saying I should go to mandrake expert. Seriously, what are they going to do, recut the CD over the phone. The whole purpose of buying was to support Mandrake but I really don't feel like they care anymore. Perhaps I could have been politer but I'd just trashed a partition table in the installer. (See Steve Scrimpshire thread on this). So far as I can see they really don't seem to care nor want to replace the Cd's. I can hold out and wait ... or find an alternative source for the CD's. Given it was an act of philanthopy in the first place actually buying them in a store I just don;t see the point ...
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