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YES This is the point you don't need A PHd you just need some reading... Then keep them I don't really care to help ANYONE WHO REFUSES TO READ! | AM NOT INTERESTED I TRIED BEING POLITE BUT THEY ARE CRAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .... THIS WHOLE ARGUAMENT IS ABOUT YOU SAYING DO I DO NOT CARE WHAT LEVEL YOU DECIDED ON ... WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A MAGAZINE NOT THE CRAP YOU POSTED ON THE INTERNET AND YOUR LUDICROUS CLAIM THAT READING IS DEAD!

That shouldn't be a problem... :D how much you can contribute depends how you view it :D ... you can read and write so you can give opinion... a non geek opinion is as valuable as a geek one... especially to other non geeks :D The point is there is nothing wrong with the GUI.... and it should be a personal choice how much GUI or CLI not decided that all n00b's don't want CLI because some do :D So long as your not the guy behind luna park on new years :D You can learn just as much by writuing and giving your experience too :D its just a different type of learning I agree completely.... although a geek mag can survive without non geeks and n00bs a non geek mag can't survive without geeks to dot he tech stuff :D but the best mag is a mix of both where you grow according to content ...experience etc. This way when you look back at an article a year ago you think "whoah I was a real n00b then" ... but equally you can find things in that magazine which are at your present level... optherwise the n00bs graduate and get bored and leave before ever putting back...

Different techniques to try are.... if its not horizontal no prob, you draw the gradient line non horiz or even use a circualr gradient (for example light through a window doorway) but in general a burn tool works on the door prob...

To some extent but that depends how graphically based they are ... its planning how the text goes with screenshots in some ways... but don't get me wrong Im not against video clips... just against planning a structure around them ... exclusively ... or having a whole "video magazine" I'd say that depends how basic n00b your aiming at... ? If mandriva changes what's in konqueror (or switches to gnome) but small things like changing icon set etc. are more confusing when its video because ... well because the user isn't really reading but looking at pictures... (t's a jpeg etc.) but if you use the quick start guide you will probably be taking worse pictures than a decent digital compact... because digital SLR's are complex things... The same goes for linux... Some stuff is relevant to Windows experts who change to linux and other stuff for people who never used a computer before.... (yes they exist) there are also n00bies to linux with 30 yrs programming and system admin on UNIX... I can't see them being comforatable with a GUI, expecially for admin tasks ... but you started off saying People barely read in these days. They don't have time. I encourage everyone to do flash or video tutors instead of magazines. there's a reason ubuntuclips exist. Take a look at http://www.virtualsky.net/5minutes for some Mandriva turials. You can see they are much more efficient than a magazine article. OK so the stuff I underlined... The future of learning? I think not... the future of shortcuts perhaps... you can buy a video for learning a language and even passing a literature exam on shakespear without ever opening the book... many people have read cliff notes for a long time but they don't understand anything ... sure if you hate shakespear and have to pass a module but its really not the same as reading the play! I'm still wating for the "bomb defusing for dummies" video :D hmm watch the video then you can go out and defuse bombs and landmines .... or learn to fly a helicopter or .... but you can't ... you need simulation and real books... I don't wanna take away your enthusiasm but do you know what's "encouraging reading" these days IMHO? Harry Potter. No, seriuosly. You can't compete with it. Or if you can you won't have any financial problems in your life anymore. Harry Potter is well written series, its an excellent series to learn English or French from... (don't know about other translations) but helping people learn who refuse to read? I have no interest in this... if people refuse to read then they deserve to remain ignorant... I spent 4-5 hours in Sydney ;listening to other peoples conversations waiting for fireworks (you needed to claim a space) and a group next to us had a guy complaining about some guy at his work who got promoted ahead of him when he had been working loinger in the company... I was a bit bored so listened in... it transpired the guy had worked longer because he started at 16 whereas the other lay-about wasted time going to Uni... and learning ... Now seriously .. what did he expect? sure a salary looked attractive at 16 ... sure the other guy probably spent a lot of time not studying but in the end the guy with the education got promoted ?? which brings me to. ... Yeah sure change linux to work as the idiots who refuse to read want it to work? but seriously ... that's what Apples are for... Mac's are appliances... if you want linux to work without a CLI then it will be an appliance and inflexible... Xandros/Linspire come to mind .. (I'm not considering SLED anymore) Or watch the latest Harry Potter movie? But look at it this way.... why are all techbooks for the blind in braille? Because we learn differently by reading than audio books (or video.).. see http://www.duxburysystems.com/hksb96.asp Well I don't agree.... and this is the crux of why.... Because you presume n00bies don't want to learn the CLI or how linux works.... This is patently not the fact... indeed we were all n00bies once... and yet many of us chose to learn the CLI... again as emmanuel_uk says So Im strongly against pretending you don't need the CLI... because sooner or later you will. Even XP needs the CLI... and the CLI gives a better understanding and flexibility... Will some users not want to or be intimidated? Sure just like the guy who chose not to go to university but they should be looking at a "linux for dummies" distro's not mandriva or linux in general and really are better off sticking with a Mac just like the guy in the park should decide to go back to school or keep with a job which doesn't need an education ... (ps I might have been more sympathetic with this guy had he not gone on and on about how he wanted to get into work to buy a car .. (well a pickup) or had financial reasons stopping him... but he seemed to think buying a car was more important... ) So my take is many n00bs want to learn linux... including the CLI so unless the magazine is "linux for people who don't want to learn" the CLI should have some place. [edited by tyme to fix quotes...or at least i tried... :)] thx tyme... Anyway... Dexter you have posted the nice KDE4 magazine proving some of us (you included) still DO READ :D

Simple stuff can be done in Gimp but this is where the Gimp is really stuck being 8-bit .... The way to do a simple one is to make two images .. with different exposure settings (works best from raw files not jpeg) and then apply one as background and another as foreground...as layers... Then you use the gradient filter and set one to background and the other to transparency... The problem is you will see the gradient in 8bit... if your interested i have a few Ive done but its no match for photoshop.... not even close in this. you might try lightzone ?

Yes but its either slow (VNC) or expensive nxserver.... and what you might look into is using http:// interface so you just use a browser ??? or LIRC as well? (in other words just use the TV and LIRC) and configure using http ???

Can I disagree? Yes video is great for some newbies, and some styles of learning. BUT, if you have no/little time to read mags/tuto you will have even less time to watch a video (that might be rather long before going to the point) Reading, fast reading ("eye scanning") cannot be replaced Well in the opening post Darkelve wrote it was for newbies. Did it change now? I meant short problem oriented videos\flash tutors. They can be organized in categories too. Besides if you'd actually looked at the Mandriva tutors in the link I gave, you'd know how fast you could watch it. You can click through the whole tutorial in no time. I think the problem is as emmanuel_uk says... quick scanning... I don't see how the scanning articles can be replaced by movies... and although they can be good the time effort involved in making a good flash movie on a specific subject is enormous compared to a text/picture article... Also as the interfaces change then the movie changes in entirity... going back the the network stuff... when the wizard changes in Mandriva then the movie will need redoing.. and the info is only useful for that version of mandriva .... Its a nice idea but I don't see how it can form a basis of the magazine... without being a whole commercial endeavor... ??? It can be done by linking thousands of flash movies ... but the work is enormous compared to text? For instance if you press X then movie jumps to X but if you choose Y it goes to Y ... yes cool but a heck of a lot of work ... IMHO.... The fileystem tutorial you did is nice but it needs more reference material IMHO.... its a great compenent of something for the linux filesystem but again IMHO only a small part... so it is fine as it is but it needs more meat around it and a lot of this can perhaps be provided best as text/graphics articles ??? and linked (for instance the CLI view or Gnome view etc. ) and list of useful CLI commands for file system stuff...and other progs than konqueror... (krusador for instance) ... so the mopvie could lead into this but then have links for more advanced stuff but I can't see every aspect being covered...?? Well ytou can also ask here.... I don't really see it as a help desk but equally video tutorials are not a magazine either??? As I said, its all in the "management and structure" .... if the video's are within a structure then it can be made magazine like and they simply form a media within the magazine... but the basic indexing and stuff should be more text based IMHO... or its just a flash tutorial.... I can see a way they are all included.... like an a la carte smorgasboard where video, text etc. are all available... Like many magazines a series can span issues BUT unlike conventional ones it can be linked and give value added in the archiving state...

Can I disagree? Yes video is great for some newbies, and some styles of learning. BUT, if you have no/little time to read mags/tuto you will have even less time to watch a video (that might be rather long before going to the point) Reading, fast reading ("eye scanning") cannot be replaced Reading for some / many is a good way to memorise the info. Wiki that can be pdf, tutorials, etc are good for people who do not have broadband You need both solutions, addressing what content goes were. One of tux strength was the horizontal layout, made easier reading. Yep we had flash tutorials at work for a SAP system.. it sucked... You had to watch the whole movie to fill out a timesheet and 99% of people didn't use 99% of the system... i.e. only 1% of people had direct purchasing power (about 50% of the tutorial) only 10% had direct reports (people woirking for them directly) Yes it can be good BUT the time/effort involved is huge compared to text articles.... I like that I like the idea of structuring rather than reinventing the wheel, I like modularity addressing different level of knowledge Was under the impression Tux was a "proof of concept" to test market and also a way to have free publicity initially to help its launch (fine by me, it benefited the whole community) What for? What purpose? I like Gowator's approach, but this more like a book distributed in episodes, less of "a glossy mag", Tux was full of pictures, adverse to CLI, was more about promoting linux to newbies than really teaching a lot. It was about awareness, what software are out there Plus it had a lot about publishing letters from readers Really, What for? What purpose? which audience? Yep the last part is the crux.... who writes and for whom .... "In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed men are kings" (sounds better in French) comes to mind. In English we say "the blind leading the blind" but its more the partially sighted leading the blind.... Yep, I was thinking as I typed ... can easily be done... and I think the way to make it a mag not a book is in the "management" .... and using articles as a base... but using chapters to structure them... As with most projects the intial step is the hardest... Once we have a linux and photography section stub we can have a user (or vendor) submitted article ... http://www.bibblelabs.com/news.html http://lightcrafts.com/products/lightzone/ http://lightcrafts.com/products/lightzone/Discover.php LightZone 2.0 Raw studio http://picasa.google.com/linux/ etc. etc., This could very quickly be an article.... Our resident journalist and a couple of antipodean mermbers I know are interested.... Commercial companies are free to write their own adverts ... (no charge but then we can know the ads if we like etc.) Hence we have a feature article and frequent news articles... and the news articles would then be "archived" into the feature article... with a bit of thought we could have subscriptions (free obviously) where we see the latest news from categories ... i.e. If you are into digital photography you can subscribe and see all articles... or articles in the last x weeks... reviews etc. etc. with RSS feeds etc. We could also then have features when major releases come out... Articles on photoshop under wine .. etc. etc. as tutorials. and how this all goes together (picassa will install wine... might it wreck your photoshop install for instance) On a seperate note, Im plannng a new website.... Iphitus gave me a great tour of Melbourne.... (thanks Iph) so I had an idea for a website... https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=38472

accorn: One of the fuindamental things is learning how each distro handles packages... As tyme has said Mandriva uses URPMI... its very good at this BUT t needs configuring :D (Its a mystery to us here why Mandriva doesn't make this more obvious, its really one of Mandriva's best features) With the exception of the ATI drivers (and perhaps including them) its far better as a n00b to ONLY use urpmi... Linux is fundamentally DIFFERENT to Windows XXX .. not harder but DIFFERENT... so what is simple in Windows (downloading a self installing executable) can be much harder in Linux... but that is really because you don't *need* to. In the same way you have thousands of packages ready to be installed.... much easier than Windows in the repositories... you just have to make a mental switch to the different way to do things... I have written a list before ... I'll repeat it, its the order for n00bs to install new software... 1/ Easy URPMI 2/ Mandriva specific RPM ...not in 'normal' repos) 3/ Other RPM (non specific/FC/Suse) in that order 4/ Binary extracting files (ATI driver, OOffice, Firefox etc.) 5) Source and compile.... Note non of these are rocket science.. hey just involve knowing more before you start.... Loosing Windows experience can be hard! In some ways you feel you are loosing everything you learned... RELAX :D as your knowledge increases it all fits together again ... I would honestly recommend 32 bit for now... especially plug-ins etc. for media and flash etc. are much more straight forwards... and get used to linux in the best environment before making life harder .... Sometime in the future you will probably want to reinstall or even change distro ... its all OK :D We are here to hold your hand through these initial phases... just as those before us held ours... and we hope you will be here in a years time helping others make the same transition.... In Japan its rude to blow your nose... you sniff... in the West its the other way round... in Arabic ountries you eat with your right hand... in the west we use knives and forks... If you spend a lot of time in these coutries sniffing or eating with your hands becomes second nature ...but you doin't forget how to use a hanky or knife and fork... Linux/Windows is like this... The customs and practice changes ...and it takes a while to adjust BUT you will.

My random thoughts on this A community effort is always better than a closed one IMHO ... but Dexter has a good point ... How many of us actually read them? I'm guilty of downloading stuff with tutorials and the like and not ever reading them ... I even have a directory full of them.. from Groking the Gimp through various mags... Also by N00bs for Noobs is not so easy ?? Yeah sure a n00b can write experiences but worthwhile tutorials are a different matter... We come back to GUI/CLI etc as well should n00bs get GUI tutorials or CLI ?? This is of course rhetoric .. GUI comes back to distro dependance ... (more so than CLI anyway) whereas CLI has that intimidation factor... Pitching all these together what might be useful is something like a topic based system ? At the same time doing it in html might be a good idea... so that things can be linked to wikipedia etc. One example might be networking ... Things can be put together with a set of criteria and metrics ... Experience level, GUI or CLI, distro specific or not ... and combined with foundation courses ? (networking 101) where stuff is copylefted where possible ... perhaps reworked etc. and the metrics can be viewed by a filter so that you select level, distro or not .. This would necessititate pre-planning... some sort of broad chapter specification ... Yes this sounds like a book .... Im typing as I think but then we can make this a magazine by the way its managed/distrituted..The idea is someone writes the basic article stub ... or just gathers the information and then others contribute until its a finished article ... Another example can be Linux and graphics basic primer, would be vector/raster ... discussion of formats etc. More detailed tutorials on Gimp etc. More specific... GiMP and digital photography... People would contribute their own pieces... for instance "GiMP and digital photography..." could initially just be a stub linking to different places and then fleshed out... EDITS: Nearly all of this work is already done HERE.... I just wrote the order for n00bs to install software (again).... All it needs is organising... illustrating, formatting etc. We have answered the same questions 1000 times.... so why not just compile them? The different categories which have evolved here are a good foundation ... and the most recurring questions a good start! For instance a recent one is audio CD's... what do they contain? If we had a system where we nominate answers as stubs for articles we could automate a large part of this...

Hi Ian .. home now ....quick look looks cool... I can help more effectively from home :D

that would be great. wow, wasn't sure about that. I remember some old threads around here about sharing one home with multiple distros... arctic: I downloaded the 3 debian testing CDs on 12/29 and 12/30... should I use these, or do the net install to get some fixes? Will I have duplicate programs after both distros are on? I mean, will there be a firefox in mandriva, and another firefox in debian, etc? I am doing this so that I can continually roll forward and get newer packages, such as firefox, and all the other major ones, with debian, rather than be stuck with old stuff in mandriva 2006. In internet cafe now so short answer.... Share /swap, its unformatted space but /home you need t6o think about... it can be done BUT.... it needs planning same KDE/Gnome etc. or you can redirect using links but it still needs thinking about before you do it.... OR use different user!

Iph, its just a 200GB external USB2 .(LACIE)... I have copied stuff onto it from my PC and I don't have NTFS write enabled so Im sure its not that :D nor does his father's desktop, his laptop is XP so I figure it must be FAT32 ... Presently using his fathers laptop and will transfer onto DVD but his father is somewhat paranoid about his laptop .... (won't connect it to ANY network).... honestly its all totally illogical but he can't be convinced otherwise! and won't let patrick my GF's brother connect his disk... so we are left with the MAC... (and its a real beauty anyway 20" cinema screen) Prices here seem pretty good so I might get myself a laptop.... (my old one seems to have found itself a new home with a friend who is a artist and has no money so I might get a new one myself :D) perhaps straight after XMAS if the salkes look good.... Iph... your advice greatly appreciated :D saw a laptop place in the city with good deals (and I get 10% back) on tax.... Its laptop"world" or similar on the street with all the camera/electronics

Thanks tyme, thats what I needed ... I was surprised the disk wasn't mounted automatically. not sure 100% of the filesystem since its my GF's brothers disk ... but Im presuming it must be FAT32 since he can read/write from linux and XP... and I can't see him having put REISERfs on it.. it might be something to do with the FAT partition being biggern than windows supports? since it was probably created under linux... and I saw somnewhere the MAC supports it even though Windows doesn't (and obviously linux doesn't care) Anyway the idea is storing my photo's on the disk since we are all in Oz right now and for some reason it seems hard to find someone to write the photos to DVD (and I don't really trust shops to split it across 2-3 CDs) had bad experiences where they only wrote the first 600MB of a 2GB card...before so I like to make sure they are all on one (its more complex because I only shoot raw images so the photo shops can't actually read the files as images just files)

Hi, Looking for a definitive answer here ...but using someone elses OSX on a G5 and want to plug in an external disk and copy my photo's and stuff over... we (me and GFs family) are with relatives so don't want to do anything might LOOK like its messing up her Mac. Plugging the disk in says it can't be read and so it offers to format it but ls /dev shows rdisk1s1 so p[resumably I just mount it? managed to find a terminal ... anyway no idea what the root password is nor if its set so suggestions please :D

Well 2007.1 is just round the corner and it seems a pattern with Mandriva that following iffy releases (which 2007 seems to be) they actually do a great job on the next release. If you plan on 2006 and try 2007.1 and it works its a bonus..if you set your heart on 2007 and it doesn't work for your hardware (specially when its new) it can be dissapointing. With 10.0 and 10.1 the hardware issues swapped over... so 2007.1 might be the same... so I'd say plan on 2006 and leave partitions to try newer ones until one of them works with your hardware.

A bit OT but.... apm is a disaster all by itself... since MS "accidentally" didn't follow the spec's in Win98 it forced all the hardware people to actually break apm so it would work with Win98.... but obviously since the source is closed they all had to hack different workarounds... so the only thing you can say for sure is if apm works with Win98 then its broken

The weird thing is the way these are mixed up.... Some of these are absolutely critical and others less than trivial... seems trivial... I know people need to create zips but if they mean by right clicking as opposed to opening a compression app then its not the end of the world, more a temporary workflow problem. sounds prety much a show stopper.... Well If I was running a small business from Mandriva then this would be critical. I realise there is a sort of voting system but you can't balance 1000 people wanting powermanga with 10 people who are using it for their business and can't scan.... can you? or because some French users have to temporarily use a different audio player ??? Its just my 2c I guess but security and business critical stuff is way more important (especially for a commercial distro) than games and audio players? )

Is I think answered rather well just by quoting arctic... Im not holding my breath... this sort of info often seems to be an afterthought...? But in the end it makes a huge difference to people with 2007 installed who are having prob's.... I don't actually *use* Mandriva though i have 2006 and 2007 installed ... 2006 works, 2007 doesn't but since I only use it for helping people I don't actually have any data or anything important in it... so for me its trivial... I installed 2007 ... rebooted and it didn't work, end of line for me... so I can just overwrite it with a clean 2007.1. However for those who it didn't work and they invested a lot of time getting nearly working... this is a big issue.. risk and upgrade or risk a re-install. Neither is good or bad, IMHO it depends on each persons situation, time invested and what data they have in use. So I'd say each individual should carefully look at these issues and whcih is better for them. It woulnd't be "Gowatorial" if I didn't sling a bit of mud at Mandriva .... but this mud comes with a backhanded compliment ....and is in the form of a question.... Don't Mandriva actually realise that people *use* Mandriva. If I didn't rabbit on verbosly it wouldn't be Gowatorial either.... So what do I mean by this? Well Mandriva can be a fine OS... but Mandriva don't always seem aware people are *using* it.... As a Kanotix user I expect this... its a "testing" distribution based on unstable... and sometimes the keeping up to date to contribute can be a bit onerus ... Kano once demanded I upgrade (and a big one across XFree->xorg and dbus).... and I explained I wasn't going to risk it because anything not working would be a disaster... it was tax declaration time ... Im going through a complex legal battle and need to be able to print/scan and stuff... I simply can't afford for it not to work, its not like I have windows with all my data on... and linux is just a game... its my OS... and rather critical and not having it for a day or two is like being a taxi driver without a car! Mandriva seems to take a similar attitude... in that they don't seem to acknowledge people are actually using the distro seriously, not just for fun.... or as a second system? I think Mandriva have to wake up to this fact ? Take stock and say "we are building a fine distro and people are relying on it" One thing Kanotix (and now sidux) does is upgrade news... (The deepest level upgrade in Debian is a dist-upgrade where basically you can go from stable to unstable or visa versa... ) and because of the nature of unstable sometimes this can break things hence both these sites have daily reports... "Don't dist-upgrade today" or "If you dist-upgrade today xx will break and doing yy will fix it" IMHO Mandriva desperately needs this..(or similar). but it seems stuck between not wanting to admit there might be problems and fixing them? 2007 seems to have a huge amount of problems, exasperated it seems by urpmi being somewhat broken ... but what is important IMHO is that they clearly document what the 2007.1 is... or is not... and let people decide .. I have a simple decision, 2007 installed and didn't work.. I didn't touch it after that.. so I know I'll just take the 2007.1 image when its released and try that but its not my primary OS .. I can afford to just blindly reinstall! If it was my primary OS... what I would want to know is what will 2007.1 BE? Should I keep trying to update or should I think a fix is roundd the corner so I'll wait. I expect 2007.1 will actually be quite good.... again a critique and compliment here but Mandriva releases seem like yoyo's.... X works... x+1 breaks, x+2 works again ? They can obviously do it... they just seem to drop the ball? and instead of working on incremental improvements and fixes seem to throw the baby out with the bathwater... each time. (a bit like how there's always a new kenny in southpark where the whole idea of Kenny is he's just the generic poor kid so when he dies there's always another).... This point release is IMHO a good step in that direction but its missing the information people need to decide ....

First thing put a note in your SIG.... complete linux n00b or similar then people get a visual hint.. sometimes its hard to know what level to aim something at :D Linux has changed a lot.... when I leanred you got a book and CD and installed... you had to configure everything yourself... Now much more works straight off but that learning experience is gone... Sometimes the more you know about windows the harder linux seems ... its not harder, mostly its actually EASIER (because its all documented and configuration is all plain text files) but because its different you tend to think in Windows terms and this just doesn't work... The best book depends how you want to learn... The best DEEP END book is LFS... but its total immersion ... Installing Gentoo is a step up... its still jumping in at the deep end but the documentation is great and it forces you to learn ... Right at the other end of the scale are books like Linuyx for Windows users. On the whole if you started with Mandriva 2007 you probably had bad luck... This release seems to have a lot of problems .. traditionally Mandriva is a great N00b distro in many ways... but it shields a lot away so you don't learn... when it al works this is fine but 2007 seems a bit of a pig... so you're left between a rock and a hard place. It might be worth considering installing 2006?

Yep and if you want to cost MS some money... my MS keyb says... call 1-800-360-7561 to request a free cdrom ... Like I said earlier batteries are not a prob on the logitech ones Ive had... 6 months-yr on 2xAA and its just not worth using rechargables at that... and all the MS mice have been corded so can't comment except they are well constructed and work forever... On the other hand I bough a cheapo wireless mouse the other month as a 2nd mouse.. (for using when using projector) and threw it away 2 weeks later after 2 battery changes...

Good question.... The problem is the simpler they make it the more problems people will have...if it doesn't go quiet as planned... Given the state of 2007 you'd think if it was just a case of "deal with a few *.rpmnew" then they would be already doing it online... That more or less describes the whole of Mandriva.... it seems progressively dumbed down or removing confusing options depending how you look at it. Personally I far far preferred the old 8.x install/remove... but apparently it was impossible to rewrite in PERL (that was the excuse at the time for disregarding the vast majority of testers) but really it was just another take away options/make it less confusing ... It probably does make it less confusing... but at the same time you loose functionaility ?? or have to run two different progs to achieve what one used to do. IMHO its really a reflection of the general move to a Microsoft type OS where tasks are wizard driven... i.e. What do you want to do? vs what do you want to install.... ? Much as I see why the former looks attractive, especially to n00bs its an unfortunate and it seems imutable fact that this always ends up reducing flexibility and forcing a steeper learning curve after the initial one... i.e. wizrds sound great.... what do you want to do? Share my internet connection.... OK ... whiz...dload/whizz cool then 3 hours later they wonder why something else isn't working... have no idea they just installed a firewall etc. the irony of course being that the more experience you have the less hassle this causes you (its not that hard to fix if you understand what it did) but then the less useful the wizard driven install is compared to the user driven one.

This mornings crop from the amusing to the insane... Just to make it clear there are some people (not me) campagning for the Vatiacan to endorse a GF host but lets not drift into the OTW...stuff... Yesterday I got a new resistration attempt from "youwilldie" :D and a fake email..? Don't people have anything better to do? Still a good attempt at English... I might even believe this is an English speaker...

Yep its worth paying for the genuine article else the batteries seem to be constantly failing... Really anything that presents itself as a mouse/keyb not as a bluetooth device should be fine... I have no probs with USB ones except on some hardware... this can sometimes be a pain under boot menu's by not having the control if USB keyb support is off .. and on some HW when you turn it on problems start! The biggest probs seem to be ones with built in hubs... in my experience

quick bump, can someone test this for downloads, Im interested to find out how fast it is outside of thier network, Im basically on a 22Mbit ATM download direct so its not realistic for me to test or pointless so if someone can give it a try and report back it would be great.