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pmpatrick
The title says it all. Just installed 9.2 which was a breeze. I think they really worked very hard to get the bugs out of the installer. Even the mouse doesn't freeze anymore. KDE is much faster/responsive and gnome flies. But I can't find the frickin kernel source on the cds making it impossible to install the nvidia drivers. I'm going to check the mirrors; they've got to make it available under the GPL. What a dumb move. Either that or I'm brain dead from fooling around with bittorrent.

Edit: The kernel source rpm is available on the mirrors; it's downloading at 200KB/sec. How do you guys feel about posting the network floppy for 9.2 to allow others to do a network install of 9.2 directly off the mirrors? At 200KB/sec it beats the pants off of bittorrent.
tyme
laugh.gif if nothing else it should be on the mirrors somewhere...
illogic-al
it's definitely on the mirrors, check with
CODE
urpmi kernel-source
to see if it's on the discs
illogic-al
they could always just install rc2 and upgrade with
CODE
urpmi --auto-select
that's what i just did (from the time of my last post till now). It would've been quicker but i was helping a freind w/ a lab biggrin.gif
pmpatrick
Already tried "urpmi kernel-source" and got no package found. I thought they may have renamed it which started me on my search and it ain't there.
tyme
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scoopy
I don't think kernel sources are needed (to install nvidia drivers).

I followed the instructions from their page at:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display...2_1.0-4496.html
and ran their script... then changed "nv" to nvidia" in the config and was good to go.
pmpatrick
Not so for me. I ran the same driver script and it complained of no kernel headers and aborted. Ran fine after I installed the kernel source which I downloaded from the mirror.
illogic-al
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I don't think kernel sources are needed (to install nvidia drivers).

I followed the instructions from their page at:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display...2_1.0-4496.html
and ran their script... then changed "nv" to nvidia" in the config and was good to go.
using normal mdk kernel maybe. anything higher and you need to have kernel sources
scoopy
That could be the missing variable in this equation. I didn't touch my stock 9.1 kernel. It is version kernel-2.4.21.0.13mdk-1-1mdk
Kormac
It would have been an even more awful catch 22 for me if I hadn't seen this on another forum somewhere and got the file before installing 9.2.
I have an nforce2 motherboard, and am using the onboard ethernet. I would not have been able to compile the driver for it without kernel-source, and unable to download it because I couldn't get on the net.
This omission is potentially critical for some of us....
tyme
The reason you didn't need kernel sources for 9.1 is because they had made the drivers (in an rpm) already for the default kernel. 9.2 has yet to have said drivers created by nvidia. Also, if you have any non-strandard kernel, it will need to compile it for that kernel.
kuchwas
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Already tried "urpmi kernel-source" and got no package found. I thought they may have renamed it which started me on my search and it ain't there.


Appears that as the 9.2 distro hits the mirrors, some stuff is removed and the server cron jobs don't update the hdlists that often. This is a time of great flux, so all the old habits will be off kilter as things change. That is the word from Experts and Cooker mail lists when I asked WTF with all the urpmi update failures and messages about installing an rpm that is in the list.

Was told to be patient for a few days as it stablilzes.

Ho Kay!
Steve Scrimpshire
I found the kernel source here:

ftp://ftp.umr.edu/pub/linux/mandrake/Mand...-10mdk.i586.rpm

I have no clue why they do not include it in the download addition. I think it is crazy not to.
VeeDubb
You know, untill I tried to install the kernel source was very happy with 9.2
But the idea of not including proper kernel source in the CD's is just rediculous. I'm very dissapointed in the mandrake soft team.
aRTee
I agree on it being rediculous of not having kernel sources on the download edition; what do they want, get clubmembers to upgrade membership to silver?

They should aim to get more clubmembers.

Anyway, I will complain about this on the frontpage of my website (asap, working on install review and all).

Easyurpmi doesn't work yet, but with the results and some browsing you can set up your sources, so all that works fine.

There is no way to install the nvidia drivers without sources unless you install a precompiled package specifically compiled for your kernel.

I.e. for 9.2 you NEED the sources.
al_chemyst
How big is the kernel source download?
I'm stuck on a 56K modem which never gets much over 2K on a download.
I figure on 1MB every 10 minutes, on downloads.

This is really a pain for a newby, who has some drivers to install to get Mandrake
working/useable. (modem, usb floppy, touchpad(not critical)) Nor even worried
about the printer, yet.

Reagrds,
Al joker.gif
aRTee
The sources are about 40MB.
Which is ok on cable, but when getting them you actually get the wrong sources 3 times, it does get tedious...

On modem at 56kb/s this is not fun; can you get them via someone with fast connection? Like at work or so?
al_chemyst
Thanks ArTee!

I can deal with 40MB. Heck, just the 'upgrades' to WinXP Pro were 33MB!!!!!
I just got this new laptop, and hated to spend $200+ for XP Pro, and $375+
for Office XP. It took about 8 hours to get the 33MB, so I'll plan on doing this
40MB download overnight.

I see there's a link to a kernel mirror at psu, so that's pretty close to home,
on a global basis! I'll probably get routed thru Timbuktu, tho!

I just set up a FAT32 disk partition so I can download there and copy over to
the Linux extents. Gotta love that PartitionMagic 8.

Thanks again for the info. I can't wait to get my modem working on the Linux
side!

Regards,
Al joker.gif
al_chemyst
I downloaded the kernel during MNF last night. It took about 2.5 hours.
Not bad! The phone company cleaned up my phone line a couple weeks
ago, and that bumped up the (connect too) download speed to 5Kbps.

Now I gotta figure out how to get that rpm and a modem file over to the
Linux partition from the FAT32 partition.

Time to read some more documentation.

Regards,
Al joker.gif
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