Opera 9.50 final has been released!
http://www.opera.com/download/

I gave up on Opera for Linux a few years ago. Footers would not print at all, yet when the font size was changed to something very large, the tops of the footers would print (first row of dots), nothing more, even with margins set to zero.

I decided it wasn't worth wasting my time over anymore.

That makes you a developer's biggest enemy.

What state the product was in 6 months ago is no reflection whatsoever, of the present state of the product. So you're potentially slandering it. Or it might have been a user issue too and Opera was never at fault.

Instead of whining to everyone you could do something prouctive and submit bug report. That way the issue would be sorted out. http://www.opera.com/support/bugs/

The bug report is quicker than complaining on forums, and it's more productive too.

Opera's sorta my second browser. I tend to flick between it and firefox. I'll probably go back to Opera once Opera Mobile 9 is released. With that my desktop and pocket pc will be in sync.

I also had some problems with Opera in the past namely flash plug in didn't work right if I clicked another tab while it was playing, when I clicked back there was a grey block instead of the video. plus mplayer plug-in didn't work whatever I tried to do.
So I decided to give it a try and I was glad I did it. First of all the installation. The guys made a Mandriva package so it was effortless. Just chose Mandriva from the list gave the root password and wait a few minutes. When the installation was finished it was right in the Internet menu.
The first thing to notice is the new look. I like it. I1m sure there are hundreds more but I like the default.
Now lets start with the problems. First page to visit is youtube.com. Flash player works. I start another tab with another video from Google video. I switch between the two tabs a few times, no grey block.
Second plug in test. Visit java.com. Java plug-in works.
Now let's see if mplayerplug-in works. So let's go to apple.com/trailers. Unfortunately mplayerplug-in seems to have a problem with playing Quicktime 7 videos. But finally I found one which wasn't in that format and it worked right in Opera too. So it looks to me the Opera developers worked for their money this time.
Of course I can only find some problems with longer usage but the first impression is positive.

I had the older version 9.27, so just updating now

I have 9.27 also.. will update it now..

what I like about opera is that it has the torrent downloader out of the box.

and it's not invasive either, it doesnt go "look at me i do torrents!" -- it just downloads a torrent like any other file.

Have been using the 9.50 betas regularly since last December.
Flash currently works fine, same goes for java, but there are still a few rough edges.
IMO they released it as a final right now to be ahead of the release of Firefox 3.
Being a faithful user, I do not consider it as a mature release, yet.
BTW I am using the statically built QT4 version. It simply looks better than the QT3 one, and it consumes a tad less resources.

Just installed Opera 9.50 final. Was using Opera 9.50 Beta 2. Opera has been my primary browser for the last 2 years. Yep, I like Opera

I see it has a new look and feel. Just installed 5 minutes ago, so don't have much else to report yet.

1. For the benefit of the owner of this web site: messages like the above, are the reason why I do not come to this site as often as I used to. Perhaps this will be my last post here.

2. I'm not whining or complaining.

3. For your information, iphitus, bug reports were filed, THREE of them to be exact.

No responses were received from anyone whatsoever at Opera. Therefore, they lost a dedicated user, as up to that point, I had been a user of Opera since version 5 (under Windows).

Performance and feature wise opera 9.5 is a big improvement compared to <9.2x for rendering speed, gui responsiveness, plugin compatibility , it's still not as good as the windows version but the gap has narrowed considerably. And eventhough the linux version is not as good as the windows version I still prefer opera/linux than ff3 with linux or opera with windows....

@scarecrow you don't have any scrolling redraw issues with the qt4 static build?

Thanks for posting the release announcement. I saw it here first.

Promptly downloaded the RPM package and used URPMI for the install. Everything went very smoothly -- absolutely perfectly, in fact.

The browser is an excellent product. I will be using it regularly, but not exclusively.

Thank goodness the days of Opera 3.61 for Windoze 3.1 are long gone.

iphitus is a long standing member of this forum. he has contributed much to the linux world, including being on the arch linux team. you may find his post abrasive, but his tone comes from the point of view of a developer who has seen too many people complain about bugs in forums but never filing a bug report. perhaps he is a bit jaded, nonetheless, i believe his intent was to help, despite his tone.

However, just 11 min. before that post... You posted: 12 Jun 2008 19:12 on forum.mandriva.com.
I find the attitude used, and the last line in both post very different. Why is that?

I don't feel that it is proper or ethical to copy and paste something, someone (who may or may not be the same person) posted on a completely different forum.

Since there are some long time Opera users here I ask it in this topic: are there any good adblocking software for Opera? Also is there any way for spell checking?

Then I take back what I said about being a developers enemy. Chances are they received them, but given you would have been a paying customer back then you definitely did deserve a response and have every right to leave them because of that. You nagged them too "3 reports" which is great, as some devs need a bit of nagging. So yeah, you did your best, kudos for reporting.

That said... time changes things, so if it's still an issue, it might be worth reporting one more time.

Sorry about the tone, I get sick of people complaining "i tried this a year ago and it didnt work thus it sucks" yet they made no attempt to have the issue solved. More often than not, developers (open source particularly) will happily follow an issue up to a resolution if reported by the appropriate channels. It's not fair on the developer, and it gives other people the wrong impression about what could be a brilliant piece of software.

Dexter: Google adblocking hosts file, it's a browser independent adblock method. Keep googling opera and adblock too, I'm fairly sure there's an opera specific method too. Opera's in an odd position. They can't include adblocking software as they'll get sued, and they don't have extension support, so it cant be written by others.

Cheers!

James

ad blocking has been build into opera for a long time (right click -> block content) there are also some premade blocking lists available. There are no inline spelling checkers but aspell can be used to check spelling...

It's posted in public, therefore it's not private. He could have easily have just linked that particular post here.

I was going to let this post go without comment. However, since Ian has already defended me (thanks, Ian), I will explain my point of view.

First of all, you are the same person that posted both post, and if necessary I can prove that. More importantly: I act and talk the same way in real life as I do on the internet, and I suppose that I expect others to do the same. If in real life you went to my neighbors house and told them something about 'John Doe', then you went to another neighbors house and told them something totally different about 'John Doe', you would then find me telling you face to face what I thought of you.

I'm very sorry that you did not want to simply answer my question as to why you posted such different remarks in two forums about the same issue. We have members here from both forums, and it is public domain.

I sincerely hope that you will continue to be an active member here.

I'm sorry this is off topic.

Greg

I see this as an apology and it's accepted.

I gave Opera one more try and the footers still do not print. If the font size is large enough, it will print the first row or two of dots of the footer but nothing beyond that, but if the size is reduced - nothing footer-related will print. It can't be hardware-related since this happened with two different brands of printers. There must be a margin setting in one of the Opera files that causes the printing to stop x number of cm/inches from the bottom of the paper. If that file and setting were accessible and if it were possible to reduce that setting, then the footers might print.

It's just that I wasted so much time (and paper!) to get the footers to print, that I decided to simply give up on it.

I never said it was private. Linking is acceptable (if the site owner allows linking).

I tried to convey the same message and anticipate continuing to participate here.

<back on topic>

The issue (footers not printing) should be easy to fix. As I said, three bug reports were filed, Opera chose not to respond or request additional information, so what was I to do. The lack of any response from them, obviously did not look good. Perhaps their bug reporting policies ought be more open, like Mozilla and Mandriva.

Please don't get me wrong, it's a great browser and I used it for many years starting with Windows, but there has to be a reason why the footers aren't printing... The SeaMonkey and Firefox footers print slightly higher up on the page compared to where the Opera footers would print (when I see dots), so something in Opera needs to be changed. The margin and scaling settings in the Print dialog aren't it.

Your not on your own when it comes to bug reports and the lack of replies to them. The only bug reports I've logged and had a very good response with are ones I logged that related to Fedora/Red Hat. I got more response from them in relation to a kernel/module issue than if I logged it directly with kernel.org!

That said, both were better than when I logged bugs with Mandriva - they weren't even acknowledged until adamw stepped in and helped kick their asses into fixing bugs - but this was being done as a whole for Mandriva, not because anyone in particular complained. Don't know what it's like now though, as I've not logged any bugs, but hoping it's getting better all the time.

I've reported several bugs to Mandriva and I've been very pleased with their response to them. Some are still open (pending resolution) while others were resolved/fixed.

One or two, I brought to Adam's attention afterwards, he followed up on them.

Shouldn't have to need to bring it to Adam's attention to get it fixed.

Last bug I filed was there for over 9 months (IIRC) without resolution despite needing only a trivial fix, it was a regression, and it made it impossible for anyone with this hardware to install Mandriva.

somehow i've been lucky. most bugs i've come across were usually already reported (and I'd just add my experience to validate) or were reported and fixed.

though I did find one in opera 9.5 tonight that I need to check on:
I tried to open the Java Console (two times, once on a site, once on just the "speed dial" page) and it beach-balled (for over an hour the first time).

Back to the new release

I have been using opera 9.5 beta and am trying to upgrade to the final 9.5
I down loaded the mandriva version from Opera.com
clicked open with software installer,
I then click install

enter my password

I then get a box telling me that some requested packages can't be installed:
opera-9.50-2042.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386, (in order to keep opera-9.50-20080422.6.i386)
continue anyway?

whether I click abort or ok, nothing happens and I still have my beta version of opera.

Help

Thanks Nic.
I'm using KDE 4.04

Huh... "urpme opera-9.50-20080422.6.i386" first should work- or not?

Just a guess, but maybe the mirror it is trying to get the dependancy from is offline. Try going to the mirror directly. In other words test the mirror you have set up for your repositories. I know the "coffee" mirror was offline for several days and may still be offline. I think some of the other mirrors might be offline temporarily as well.

Yes it worked. Thanks

Nic

PS Iike the look and feel of Opera

What is "it"???

Opera rocks! It is a fantastic browser! It works sooooooooooo much better than FF (at least on my computer... ) Opera is so advanced (over other browsers), no wonder only geeks love Opera...

The Windows version has something wrong with it as well, but since this is a Linux forum, I will not bore anyone with the details.

Hey, you are wrong, Demon.
I do think Opera is ten times better than Firefox, but I ain't a geek!

I can put in my vote of confidence for Opera 9.5 as well, I have been using it for a couple of weeks now and it works very well. I downloaded it because I think FF3 is so pig ugly, but I have really got used to using it and it works well. Speed dial is a nice feature - better than bookmarks. Spell checking is much better than FF (2 or 3) in that it actually suggests the correct spelling for misspelled words. In all the years I have been using FF I have never once got it to do that on any platform or any machine it just underlines the wrong spelling and leaves you to guess the right one. I had a long thread going about this on another forum and I know others just right click the underlined word and get a list of possible replacements. This just doesn't work for me and never has (and yes I do have the correct dictionaries installed).

About the only annoyance for me with Opera is with Wand. When it fills in usernames and passwords it asks for the master password every time, I would like the option to change that to once per session.

I don't use it in preference to FF2 but I certainly do in preference to FF3.

Tools -> Preferences... -> Advanced -> Security -> (from here you can change preferences about master password or disable it)

Regarding Speed Dial: http://operawatch.com/news/2008/06/how-to-...s-in-opera.html


By the way, new snapshot has been released few hours ago: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2008/...august-snapshot

Hey thanks for that Demon.

Silly me I was expecting the Wand preferences to be under Tools/Preferences/Wand.

I like the link about speed dial too, I might well add a few more.

EDIT. A few click later and I have 16 speed dials - brilliant thanks again.

I have got to like Opera so much over the past few days that I have installed 9.51 on Mandriva 2008.1 now and use it as my default browser. I am using it on all 3 distros that I run now, it really is good.

Opera 9.52 has been released:

ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/952/final/en/

I just installed 9.52 on cooker and it has a rather annoying habit that wasn't present in 9.51. Every time I start it I get two tabs opening, one is my normal blank home page and the other is the Opera portal which I don't want, but can't stop from loading. My preferences are set to start with a blank page and the home page window is blank but I still get the portal tab as well. Do you know how I can stop it from loading?

are you sure you downloaded 9.52 final because I saw this in some snapshot builds but it got fixed in rc1 or 2...

Help/About Opera tells me I have version 9.52 build 2091 which incidentally is the same version and build number that I run on Suse 11.1 and I do not have the same problem on that distro. Anyway, it is not exactly a show stopper, just a minor annoyance. I am sure it will right itself eventually. Thanks for the reply ffi.

EDIT: I just installed it on Mandriva 2008.1 and it works normally, so perhaps this is something specific to Cooker??

EDIT2: It works normally on Suse 11.0 as well so I guess it must be something to do with Cooker.