Anshul
Dec 5 2007, 01:48 AM
Hi all,
I need some help in changing the GTK apps theme in the KDE version of 2008. I really dislike the blue-ish Ora theme for MCC, Firefox, all the other GTK-based apps. Is there any way to put them back to a default theme, like Clearlooks? I remember a setting in the KDE Control Center to set the GTK options...I don't see that with Mandriva. Can someone please help?!
-Anshul
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jkerr82508
Dec 5 2007, 07:28 AM
Install gtk-qt-engine
There is also gtk-chtheme
Jim
Sunnyr
Jan 16 2008, 02:10 PM
QUOTE
Install gtk-qt-engine
There is also gtk-chtheme
Jim
I have it but it really doesnt work that well on here, the gtk engine seems stuck on the iaora theme even when I set it to use the QT engine.
I want to use more themes but it seems stuck.
tyme
Jan 16 2008, 03:23 PM
run:
CODE
gnome-theme-manager
to change your gtk theme. be sure to add:
CODE
gnome-settings-daemon
to KDE's autostart.
gtk-qt-engine isn't the best way to modify the GTK theme, even though it tries to make GTK emulate your QT theme. Many themes just don't translate well and end up looking a little ugly.
Sunnyr
Jan 16 2008, 03:44 PM
well it seems much messier in mandriva then in others i have used, mandriva doesnt seem to do well with GTK theming
fdany
Jan 16 2008, 05:07 PM
Have you tried gtk-chtheme ? You have to add gnome themes for a large choice.
tyme
Jan 16 2008, 05:55 PM
QUOTE (Sunnyr @ Jan 16 2008, 10:44 AM)

well it seems much messier in mandriva then in others i have used, mandriva doesnt seem to do well with GTK theming
The problem is that KDE doesn't start gnome-settings-daemon. This is
normal, as gnome-settings-daemon is part of GNOME, not KDE. It has nothing to do with Mandriva. If you were in GNOME, GTK theming would work fine.
Sunnyr
Jan 16 2008, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (tyme @ Jan 16 2008, 12:55 PM)

The problem is that KDE doesn't start gnome-settings-daemon. This is normal, as gnome-settings-daemon is part of GNOME, not KDE. It has nothing to do with Mandriva. If you were in GNOME, GTK theming would work fine.
but i have used other KDE based distros, slapped on gtk-qt and it seemed fine.
Heck kubuntu seems to do better then this
tyme
Jan 16 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Sunnyr @ Jan 16 2008, 03:04 PM)

but i have used other KDE based distros, slapped on gtk-qt and it seemed fine.
Heck kubuntu seems to do better then this
Like I said, I don't support use of gtk-qt, so to me it doesn't matter. gtk-qt is a hack at best, and you can't expect it to work well in every situation. results are
extremely theme dependent.
Sunnyr
Jan 16 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (tyme @ Jan 16 2008, 03:06 PM)

Like I said, I don't support use of gtk-qt, so to me it doesn't matter. gtk-qt is a hack at best, and you can't expect it to work well in every situation. results are extremely theme dependent.
I use it because it offers a way to have a unified look without being tied down to a certain style, in most other distributions I have used this engine works fairly well but in mandriva it looks junky.
tyme
Jan 16 2008, 08:37 PM
we're going in circles.
IMHO, using the original tools created specifically for the task at hand (gnome-theme-manager, gnome-settings-daemon) is really a much better idea. Unified look can be achieved through simply picking good themes. Again, just MHO. I'm not going to continue to argue the point.
Sunnyr
Jan 16 2008, 09:36 PM
I am not argueing, just pointing out how I like to set up my system
ianw1974
Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM
Sometimes if something doesn't work, you have to look at alternatives. It's obvious from here that the gtk-qt theming isn't working. So, an alternative has been mentioned by tyme using the gnome-settings-daemon to autostart with KDE. This does work, as I've used it myself back in Mandriva 2006 and 2007.
Each distro is different, so what might work in one, might not work in another. If you're refusing to try another solution, then that's up to you. If you want it to work, use the alternative.
Sunnyr
Jan 17 2008, 11:26 AM
hey i am willing to try anything, like I said I am not here to argue.
by the way what package is the gnome settings daemon in on the repos?
ianw1974
Jan 17 2008, 12:27 PM
I have a feeling it is gnome-control-center that will give you this. Then you need to add it to .kde/Autostart, simply by doing this:
CODE
cd ~/.kde/Autostart
ln -s /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon
and then each time you restart KDE it will be loaded.
ffi
Jan 17 2008, 03:31 PM
you need to install the gtk-qt engine then an option to change the gtk theme under kde will show up in the kde control center, you can then choose to use either gtk-qt or any installed gtk theme without the need of any gnome stuff installed
my guess is that there have been some changes in glib which affect gtk-qt engine causing some themes to look crappy in some gtk apps, the change happened for me in both gutsy and mdv2008.0
ps try deleting the .gtk related files in your home directory to get the gtk theme to change, sometimes they seem to get corrupted......
Sunnyr
Jan 17 2008, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (ianw1974 @ Jan 17 2008, 07:27 AM)

I have a feeling it is gnome-control-center that will give you this. Then you need to add it to .kde/Autostart, simply by doing this:
CODE
cd ~/.kde/Autostart
ln -s /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon
and then each time you restart KDE it will be loaded.
yup that did it, I wasnt sure as I know packaging varies
ianw1974
Jan 17 2008, 05:52 PM
Nice one
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