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ianw1974

Nov 22 2007, 10:00 AM

I posted this on the Fedora forum, and got no replies whatsoever, so I'll try here in the hope that someone might have some ideas as we have some Fedora users that frequent here

For some strange reason, I cannot install Fedora 8.

My machine will boot from the DVD that I downloaded, but it proceeds to ask me where the installation files are. I selected Local CD, but it says it cannot read/find it. I'm reluctant to do a net-install, because the whole reason of having the DVD downloaded was so that I could use that.

Here's the output of lspci:

CODE

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Contoller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Mobile IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Mobile SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev b6)
02:04.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 02)
10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
18:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)

my hardware isn't strange. It will boot Ubuntu 7.10 perfectly fine into the Live CD without problems. Any ideas appreciated. I've attempted to load all available Intel modules but none of them seem to work for me.

Similar happened with Fedora 7, except I also got busybox errors when booting the machine, but when I got around this I came up against the same problem. I was kind of hoping that Fedora 8 would have had this fixed. I don't understand how it can boot the CD, and then fail to recognise the media as being present as if it's unsupported hardware or something. The CD/DVD should have failed to boot at all if this was the case.

lavaeolus

Nov 22 2007, 03:38 PM

maybe it uses a generic ide-driver to boot and fails trying to load the ide-driver for your chipset (just a wild guess), your hardware is definitely not that exotic, maybe I should try installing Fedora on my box, the basic hardware seems to be similar

ah, sorry just looked at my box, it uses an ich7, so I'm not sure if the results would be comparable

have you already looked on tuxmobil.org or other notebook-specific sites ?

ianw1974

Nov 22 2007, 08:16 PM

Yeah, I currently have Gentoo 2007.0 installed and no hardware problems whatsoever, except my wireless but that's a different story. Is an odd one. I might try an FTP install and then see if the CD/DVD drive works afterwards.

lavaeolus

Nov 22 2007, 08:37 PM

sorry that I could not help so far but seems I have to install fedora now (I'm courious

), haven't used it lately since I was just to happy with mandriva, ubuntu and debian

ianw1974

Nov 22 2007, 08:40 PM

I was hoping it would work for me this time

But sadly not, still not tried the ftp install, and not sure when I will. I'm happy with Gentoo so far, so shall see what happens. Maybe I'll tar up the hard disk and try Fedora, and then I have the option to put Gentoo back if I'm not happy with it, or it doesn't work how I expect it. Ah, something fun for the future maybe.

Thanks for the hints though.

lavaeolus

Nov 22 2007, 09:07 PM

Maybe you could try the Fedora Live CD, there seems to be a version for Fedora 8 too, I have only 7 at the moment, would be interesting how it behaves.

Have just installed Fedora 7 from LiveCD, seems to work ok, dvd-drive works, but as already mentioned I have a different chipset

Reiver_Fluffi

Nov 23 2007, 10:52 AM

Ian, it might be worth trying one of the Live CD's, I know that it's a pain in the backside, but worth a try.

lavaeolus

Nov 23 2007, 06:45 PM

so far the fedora 7 live CD wasn't that painfull for me, it has just the same limitations as every live-system.

ianw1974

Nov 23 2007, 07:18 PM

I'll download the Live CD and have a go with it. Disappointing though, really disappointing for Fedora.

lavaeolus

Nov 23 2007, 07:34 PM

I hope you have luck and it works.

I had such a problem the other way round, Mandriva one just didn't like my onboard sata and refused to boot (kernel-panic and all), while the normal CD-install worked fine, sata was detected and worked, even the raid function could be used.

scarecrow

Nov 23 2007, 09:09 PM

Can't comment, as I did not install FC8 to real hardware (just a Virtualbox VM). But it worked right out of the box...
I noticed your post because my hardware is pretty similar to yours.

ianw1974

Nov 23 2007, 10:34 PM

I did it in a vmware first, and it worked. And it was vm on my laptop. But sadly, real machine doesn't want to play ball. I have a few things to try, so will see.

ianw1974

Dec 11 2007, 12:35 PM

Am downloading the Fedora 8 x86_64 Live CD now to see if I can actually get it booting. Then, if I'm brave enough I might consider an installation. Note: backup system first in case I want to revert

ianw1974

Dec 11 2007, 02:49 PM

What a waste of time.

Seems I need 800MB CDR now. What a ball-ache. I think I'm gonna give up on this, too much effort required.

scarecrow

Dec 11 2007, 03:19 PM

Errr, simply burn the ISO to a DVDRW, which you can re-write later... it's the same like burning to hi-capacity CDR.

Reiver_Fluffi

Dec 11 2007, 03:21 PM

QUOTE (ianw1974 @ Dec 11 2007, 02:49 PM)

What a waste of time.

Seems I need 800MB CDR now. What a ball-ache. I think I'm gonna give up on this, too much effort required.

Nope, you need to use a DVD (this was noted somewhere, obviously not on the downloads page, that would be too obvious

)

ianw1974

Dec 11 2007, 03:59 PM

Will give it a try now, as I'm in the office. Already wasted three CD's

ianw1974

Dec 11 2007, 04:17 PM

QUOTE (Reiver_Fluffi @ Dec 11 2007, 04:21 PM)

Nope, you need to use a DVD (this was noted somewhere, obviously not on the downloads page, that would be too obvious

)

Funny that they never noted in the filename that it was a DVD, you know like Fedora-8-Live-DVD-x86_64.iso for example would have been much nicer, and would save them having to inform people later what it actually is

Live DVD works fine btw. I can see all hardware OK it seems. Even my 3D effects work, which I've yet to get working in Gentoo. I wonder if celestia and stellarium will work - as they don't in Gentoo. Only way to find out is install I suppose and see.

ianw1974

Dec 12 2007, 09:34 PM

Well, I'm now running Fedora 8 x86_64 on my machine.

Install was OK. I got around the problem by burning the boot.iso and then doing an ftp net install my mounting the DVD ISO to /mnt/iso on my other Linux system and then running vsftpd to connect and do the install

Reiver_Fluffi

Dec 13 2007, 10:17 AM

QUOTE (ianw1974 @ Dec 11 2007, 04:17 PM)

Even my 3D effects work, which I've yet to get working in Gentoo.

That's one of the things I like about Fedora, provided that you have a card that is supported by an open source driver that works with AIGLX, 3-D effects work out of the box. Every other distro I have tried recently requires more effort that I can be bothered with.

ianw1974

Dec 13 2007, 11:06 AM

So far, I'm liking it. Of course, I can't find skype 64 bit version, and I tried 32 bit but it wouldn't connect and log me in. So it was removed, and all the other 32 bit dependencies it pulled in. Flash is installed, but not tested yet, and Adobe reader is working fine also. Just skype so far that is a pita. Not directed at Fedora, just skype since they don't have 64 bit Linux version in general as far as I can see.

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