ok...well im the first


also what is redhat 9 like, i dont paticularly liek teh ethics of redhat, but is this such a major jump as to another version number release?

I'm a noob so I don't really notice that much differences but I have used it and I dunno, I just didn't like how it ran. Can't really be any more specific then that except that I really dont' care for Red Hat at all. Just my opinion...

I use redhat on my work machine (they won't let me use mandrake, no clue why-tho I doubt that'd know it if I used mandrake instead) and I don't care for it much. It looks nice and all, but I've gotten so used to mandrakes setup and tools that I don't find redhat to be all that "user-friendly" in the end.

just my two cents.

Well, RedHat 9 is not really a major jump. Its basically 8.1, but since Mandrake was releasing 9.1 and Suse is about to release 9.0 also... RedHat decided it should be on version 9 too.

Notice that they dont call it 9.0. Next version wil be 10.

Those version number are stupids. It's like which company will get to 129876239872983742983 the first. Come on .. I think the company should promote their release by names instead of numbers. Like Windows (doh) did with WinMe and XP.. they stoped to talk about number. I really prefer to talk about Mandrake Bamboo than Mandrake 9.1. Just my personnal opinion..

MOtts

Well, part of Intel (from 486 to Pentium, for example)& Microsofts decision was almost certainly based on the fact that you can't register numbers as tradmarks

In my opinion the names for Mandrake distro's blow..

bamboo >>> cummon.

RedHat use cool names like psyche and sea wolf .!!!

Their names are hardcore as apposed to mdk's soft names.!!

RH9 is named Shrike... thats some kind of anti radiation missle used to target radar. Very... John Wayne.

Preferred 8.1 (beta) though... named Pheobe. That was much better. I'drather be reminded of Pheobe Kates.

By the way AA, went to your site but cant see a thing.

i dont know if you are just kidding or what but i think mandrakesoft is after a philosophical name that should symbolize their current status. a bamboo is a resilient plant. It belongs to the grass family which is pretty incredible if you consider its height. A bamboo plant is so resilient that it can withstand storms. it does this by swaying with the wind; where other trees survive using their thick trunks and huge root systems, bamboo plants weather the storm by swaying with the wind.

i think the name is cool. but then it might be just me. i would have appreciated it if its named rice stalk, but i dont think the distro has been fit enough to be named such.

ciao!

My site .... yeah... that's a dismal affair...
I needed the hard drive for a workstation and after that I am gonna use the drive for a mail server.... so who knows when the site will be back up again... I should actually remove the link when I'm not feeling lazy...

Hopefully it will be up again soon, when I have time to put together another server... need to scratch through tons of old PC parts and find parts that work..!!


As for the MDK naming thing.. I'm not into this whole philosophical meanings of things... I like it to sound cool and mean, the whole first impressions thing I guess. But yeah you have a point about the bamboo thing, but then what about dolphin, a lot can be said about a dolphin but cummon, who wants their linux distro named after a "fish" !!

Errr... dolphin is not a fish, it's a mammal.
In fact, it is widely known that dolphin is a very intelligent animal. I think it is the most intelligent non-simian animals around. Not to mention friendly, too. I mean.. you want mandrake to be a friendly distro aren't you?

But I guess anything is better than traktopel

Dolphins are great, if you ever get a chance to swim with bottle nose dolphins do so!.
On time at the beach had a pod of around 40-50 turn up, they stayed for about 3 hours which is very uncommon.
Didn't even notice i had been swimming for 3hrs straight untill i got out of the water (at which point i knew big time :wink: ).
Had my dive flippers and a mask and snorkel so i could do a lot of underwater swimming fantastic, dive down and have 2.5+ meter long dolphins swimming on both sides and underneath you around a meter away.

Fish indeed :roll:

Oh you lucky sonofagun! *panting*

Isn't redhat more stable than Mandrake though? Maybe that's why work wants redhat rather than mandrake?

'but then what about dolphin, a lot can be said about a dolphin but cummon, who wants their linux distro named after a 'fish'"

...the ones that use a distro symobolized by a Penguin?

Cannon:

Well RedHat tends to be more conservative in its packaging and features. Mandrake tends to give you the latest and has more innovative features.

But I really think it all boils down to support.

I wonder, if you had a version named "Herring," would it run around trying to eat/escape itself?

I know a dolphin is a mammal, thats why I put it in ""..!!

I should have used the term "sea creature" rather than fish.


My point is this: When you want to sell eg. a car, you put the most beautiful women you can find on the bonnet. It's that whole first impression thing. If you really took the time to think about everything you looked at or names they gave to everything (by everyone) you have way too much time on your hands.

I suppose for people that have way too much time on their hands to think about names as apposed functionability and usability, dolphin or bamboo would sound good to them.

I'm not saying that redhat is better, I just think that redhat has a better naming scheme.

Take "sea wolf" as an example. When you think about the name it could mean that it's the hunter and the killer in the big sea of linux distro's. It's number one and that other distro fear it...

Any company that releases a product should think about what they're going to name their product because the name sells. I don't think that Mandrake's naming scheme does the job as well as it should.
Maybe for a philosophy professor at a university, but then all they'd want to do is type in their word processor, in which case they'd use windoze!!

I disagree. Dolphins/porpoises are known to be smart, helpful and couragous. Sounds like pretty good qualifications to me. I mean, they fend off sharks, rescue humans, sweep for mines, what's so wimpy about that?

Sea Wolf? It sounds like something a first year madison avenue intern would come up with as a name for a toy advertised during saturday morning cartoons. It doesn't engender any respect in me, quite the opposite, actually - but that's just my opinion.

Mandrake is a plant, bamboo is a plant. Sounds reasonable to me, when put alongside the attributes of bamboo mentioned earlier.

1. Names are much harder to remember than numbers. Redhat has 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, 2.1, 3.0.3, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0 and 9.0. Thats 20 names. Who's going to memorize 20 names ? Add to that what mandrake, suse, slackware, debian, gentoo, yoper, ..... have.

2. Names do not give a sense of chronology. Is "seahorse" a later release than "bluewhale" ? Who knows ? They also don't tell u which distro they belong to. Basically names contain no useful information. Its good to have numbers. In fact, the numbering is usually done with a pupose. All redhat 7.x distros are similar as compared to 6.x distros and 8.x distros since:
6.x is glibc-2.1.3/gcc-2.95 based
7.x is glibc-2.2.x/gcc-2.96 based
8.0/9.0 is glibc-2.3.2/gcc-3.2.x based

I'm used to combos, where either portion tells you what it is. Like F-15 Strike Eagle, WAGB-10 USCGC Polar Star, "Colleen" & "Candy" and 400 & 800, etc

Yeah.. but those stuffs are not updated every 6 months.. I mean.. what would happen if an F-15 is upgraded every 6 months where the electronics are changed, the cockpit got redesigned, etc, etc, etc.. In 2 years.. an F-15 could look like.. well a spaceship

I guess the numbering system is like the year of the car model. It make sense for a sense of progression.

I never refer to a distribution by name anyway (unless I'm in an IRC channel and we're discussing a particular version). If I were running the company, I'd name the variations, and keep those variation names plus the version number. By variations I mean things like Prosuite, power pack, downloadable, corporate server, etc - name them something fancy.

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned somewhere in this post or not, but I recently read somewhere that dolphins are the only other things, besides humans, that have sex just for pleasure.

Just an interest fact, if true. Guess dolphins really are smart.