as many folks know I'm working on "adapting" mcnl in several ways. The most recent has been using Chris's scripts for a personal desktop' that could then be rematstered onto a dvd, so that if (or WHEN) things go south,, I can do a reinstall from the last known good config.

and if you saw my VBOX situation, you might have guessed that, that would be a good time to test the theory, so I did.

I used my DVD from the day before I installed VBX to comepletely rewrite the OSinto a 53GB / partition, and everything seems to be working well.

so I did a df immediately upon install and w/o any other drives mounted the install seems to be taking up about 3.3gb.

Useable, but still kind of big.

O i decided to uninstall a bunch of games, and Firefox, reboot and df, and NOW it apears as thoughy the install is taking up 4.4GB?

Ok, so I UNINSTAKLL apps and it takes up more room?

something's not right.

anyone have any thouhts or idea?

How do you uninstall?

How do you delete stuff? Is it still in the trash?

Do you work as root?

If you have a vbox disk image, it is not enough to "detach' it inside the VirtualBox program, you need to "delete" it manually, from within the dir where you created it. And use the command line, not graphically.

"it seems ..."
" it appears as ..."

... is not very specific.

You need to give the EXACT output of: df

I went through MCC


Nope killed al that to


When I needed to yes.


I havent gotten about to reinstalling VBOX yet. I thought I would "thin thinkgs out" a little more before I started the VBOX process again.

I've done a clean install from my own master BEFORE VBOX was installed.

Now I'm wondering if starting the WHOLE process over from scratch, as skinny as I can deal with, would be the best route.

I hate to lose the work I've built up so far, but it just doesnt make a lot of sense

Re-installing over and over again won't get you a solution.
You need to find what is going on, or what you are doing exactly.

Also, you never answer any questions here. The only way to find out is that you learn how to provide information.

Give the output of:



here. Post it HERE. Include your command that you type!!

Give the output of:



where username is your useraccount.
Post it HERE. Include your command that you type!!

Give the output of:



Post it HERE. Include your command that you type!!

Give the output of:



Post it HERE. Include your command that you type!!

Give the output of:



Post it HERE. Include your command that you type!!

Ecellent, thanks for the input, hopefully I'll be able to post that in a few hours.
Thanks

BTW Chris, I really appreciate you posting the specific questions. I agree with you that a continuous series of reinstalls is NOT going to lead to the answer I just really didnt know the specific questions to answer.

j

[root@localhost mindwavex]# cat /etc/fstab
/dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1
/dev/hdf /media/cdrom auto umask=0,users,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/sda6 /usr3 ext3 defaults 1 2
/dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0
[root@localhost mindwavex]#


[root@localhost mindwavex]# du -s /home/mindwavex
2.4G /home/mindwavex
[root@localhost mindwavex]#



[root@localhost mindwavex]# du -s /tmp
3.1M /tmp
[root@localhost mindwavex]#



[root@localhost mindwavex]# du -s /var
100M /var
[root@localhost mindwavex]#

(now that does look a little big)


[root@localhost mindwavex]# du -s /root
1.7M /root
[root@localhost mindwavex]#


Ok thats everything anything besides the VAR look unusual? and maybe the VAR should look like that
Thanks in advance for any ideas any of you may have.

j

Here is your problem:



2.4 GB in your home directory.
Happy hunting where you stored what :-)

100 MB in /var is pretty normal.

And this :



could be your problem when building a live iso. Harddisks are usually mounted in a sub dir of /mnt ... and then they are excluded by default when running mklivecd. Your unusual mountpoint includes everything on this partition.

KDE is perfect for this, it has what is called file size view (selectable from the view menu) which graphically shows the size of each and every file and subdir of a directory.....

ell its aplace to start....

Try this:



Copy & paste, don't type.

If you see core* files, you have a problem.

WOW

file /size view, is NOT for the color impaired!

but you were right here C I did find an OLD ISO buried.

as for USR3, I deliberately unmount that before every remaster

ls -alSH /home/mindwavex
total 188
drwxr-xr-x 29 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 20:07 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 11 23:22 ../
drwx------ 7 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 07:11 .beagle/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 6 20:38 .config/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 06:17 Desktop/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 3 07:08 Documents/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:41 Download/
drwxrwxr-x 7 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 11 23:23 .evolution/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 06:14 .gconf/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 17:38 .gconfd/
drwx------ 4 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 17:37 .gnome2/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 4 12:17 .gnome2_private/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 3 23:27 .gnucash/
drwx------ 7 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 11 23:35 .kde/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:41 .local/
drwxr-xr-x 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 11 23:22 .mcop/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 11 23:35 .mdk-folders/
drwxr-xr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:41 .MdkOnline/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:47 .mozilla/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:41 Music/
drwx------ 9 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 17:37 .opera/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:41 Pictures/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 06:14 .qt/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 6 19:49 .spamassassin/
drwx------ 4 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 06:15 .thumbnails/
drwx------ 6 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 13 06:26 tmp/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 2 22:41 Video/
drwxr-xr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4096 Aug 11 23:23 .wapi/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 3 23:39 .xdg_menu_cache/
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 3793 Aug 2 22:38 .screenrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 376 Aug 2 22:38 .bash_profile
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 280 Aug 2 22:41 .gtk-bookmarks
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 145 Aug 2 22:38 .bash_completion
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 124 Aug 2 22:38 .bashrc
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 54 Aug 13 06:14 .xauthdR0c7P
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 34 Aug 12 02:46 .bash_history
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 28 Aug 13 20:04 .xsession-errors
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 27 Aug 13 18:43 .dmrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 24 Aug 2 22:38 .bash_logout
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 13 17:38 .ICEauthority
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 2 22:41 .mdk-menu-migrated
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 13 18:43 .menu-updates.stamp
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 13 20:07 .Xauthority




unfortunately even AFTER killing and emptying that old .iso I'm still df >4.4GB

up from 3.1gb immediately after install.

the ONE thing I have done since I ran that remaster was to get my mail with evolution (ev was already installed in my setup) I can imagine that 27 test messages would make THAT big of a difference?

open to any and all suggestions

What is so hard to check every directory?

Also, first you said that you had no old .iso. Now you say that you deleted an old iso!

Btw, you did not copy & paste the command, you typed. It was the wrong command.

Your problem has nothing to do with 'uninstalling' things. But more with: you forget what you are doing.

I think that now you have enough tips how to find where your stuff is.
Empty trash, delete old stuff etc.

Good luck!

well see when the original issue started. where the image jumped fom 3.1 to 4.4 gb there were no old iso's. It was only after I posted the original that I tried another master and didnt delete it,

but I do see the mis type in the command you asked me to post, (but when you said copy and paste, i thought you meant the results) so here, is , i believe, what you asked for:

ls -alSh /home/mindwavex
total 188K
drwxr-xr-x 29 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 20:07 ./
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4.0K Aug 11 23:22 ../
drwx------ 7 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 07:11 .beagle/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 6 20:38 .config/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 06:17 Desktop/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 3 07:08 Documents/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:41 Download/
drwxrwxr-x 7 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 11 23:23 .evolution/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 06:14 .gconf/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 17:38 .gconfd/
drwx------ 4 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 17:37 .gnome2/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 4 12:17 .gnome2_private/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 3 23:27 .gnucash/
drwx------ 7 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 11 23:35 .kde/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:41 .local/
drwxr-xr-x 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 11 23:22 .mcop/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 11 23:35 .mdk-folders/
drwxr-xr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:41 .MdkOnline/
drwx------ 3 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:47 .mozilla/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:41 Music/
drwx------ 9 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 17:37 .opera/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:41 Pictures/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 06:14 .qt/
drwx------ 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 6 19:49 .spamassassin/
drwx------ 4 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 06:15 .thumbnails/
drwx------ 6 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 13 06:26 tmp/
drwxrwxr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 2 22:41 Video/
drwxr-xr-x 2 mindwavex mindwavex 4.0K Aug 11 23:23 .wapi/
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Aug 3 23:39 .xdg_menu_cache/
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 3.8K Aug 2 22:38 .screenrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 376 Aug 2 22:38 .bash_profile
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 280 Aug 2 22:41 .gtk-bookmarks
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 145 Aug 2 22:38 .bash_completion
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 124 Aug 2 22:38 .bashrc
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 54 Aug 13 06:14 .xauthdR0c7P
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 34 Aug 12 02:46 .bash_history
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 28 Aug 13 20:04 .xsession-errors
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 27 Aug 13 18:43 .dmrc
-rw-r--r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 24 Aug 2 22:38 .bash_logout
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 13 17:38 .ICEauthority
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 2 22:41 .mdk-menu-migrated
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 13 18:43 .menu-updates.stamp
-rw------- 1 mindwavex mindwavex 0 Aug 13 20:07 .Xauthority

so, although, yes, I do have ome leads, and am trying to learn, I hope that anyone with an idea would contribute.

I think there are probably a lot of folks who would like to learn more, but since there is no grand master .pdf on linux, they get wrapped around an issue, and without assistance, they go back to what they DO know.

I've often said that I think that you guys have done a great thing w/ mcnl, but unfortunately, even as "simple" of an install as it is, it's still a fairly large learning curve.

I was really excied about the possibilities, so i gave a fiend a copy on USB, and CD.

unfortunately, he hasnt the time (or doesnt make the time) to look at sites like this one (or even mandriva.com for that matter) and so if he gets stuck he gives up.

I think thats a shame. 1st because his ego wont let him ask a question, but worse yet (using the extreme absurd example) if he mentions logging into the GUI as root, he gets so lambasted the last thing he wants is to ask any more questions.

That is really huge. You need to figure out what part of that you really need.
du --max-depth=1 /home/midwavex
would help show where all that stuff is being stored.
Note that you may have a bunch of junk in /home/mindwavex/tmp

Also do du -s /*

Do what unruh said:

du -hs --max-depth=1 /home/mindwavex|grep M
du -hs --max-depth=1 /home/mindwavex|grep G

and for good measure

du -hs --max-depth=1 /

They'll give a clear idea of where the data is.

James

But you do not know what you had then and furthermore, when you ask for help you give contradictory answers. That makes it very very hard to help you.

Your /home directoy contains 2.5G of stuff. That is a HUGE home directly.
What I would guess is that when you erased stuff, it ended up in your unemptied wastebacket in /home/midwavex/tmp.
However to see what is going on we need to see what the size of the directories are in your home directory.

du --max-depth=1 /home/mindwavex
will tell you what the size is of each of the subdirectories. Find the big ones. Erase what should not be there. Get your home directory down to a few MB, not GB.

Also what is the output of df?

actually the "conflicting" statements were spread out over several sessions and attempts.

I scrapped that install and started over, this time w/o evolution or vbox, and everything seems to be working fine.

I will add vbox next, but i think maybe evolution brings too much gnome with it for my tastes, and thats probably what was throeing me off.

right niw, i'm sitting at a nice comfortable 2.1GB (before vbox) so i'll let you know what vbox adds.

thanks for your input though

j