At this moment kde-3.5.2 for x86_64 is done and is being uploaded.

The kde-3.5.2 for x86 packages are almost all done, ill start upload the ones i have made and the restant will be finished tomorrow.

cheers,

Not all packages are available yet. I'll try again tomorrow.

Hi.

I installed 3.5.2 an hour ago and found out a couple of bugs (maybe you already know about them or not).

When I try to log in via KDM and give a wrong password, it doesn't say anything. Only a blank box appears under those input fields. I haven't got time to install any new KDM themes, so i'm using MDE theme right now, could it be related to that? The same problem was in 3.5.1.MDE.

Noatun still crashes aRts, and XMMS just freezes. I tried XMMS before crashing aRts with noatun.

But KDE is cool on my desktop (just moved from GNOME to KDE 3.5.1 and then 3.5.2).

Good work people.

I think i must explain a few things regarding upgrading to mde kde.
Because there have been some issues with it.

Start by adding all needed repositories.

1. Because mandriva updates only updates kernel source and not kernel.
one have to checkl if there is akernel upgrade available and install it with mcc together with the matchinh kernel source.
And then reboot into the new kernel before proceeding.
2. I would also stronly recomend that one starts with upgrading to mde xorg before anything else, also using mcc.
OBS! Because urpmi cannot automatically select any needed 32bit compatibility libs that might need to be upgarded at same time, one has to chack thoos for upgrade manually in mcc)
3. After this is done should a normal urpmi --auto.select work

If any warings appear it is most likely caused by some 32bit lib that is installed.
We will only provide the needed 32bit compatibility libs in 64bit repo to be able to make a clean installed mandriva 64bit upgrade.
If any other 32bit lib is needed one must add the 32bit repo also.

We have talked with the official mandriva devs about the problem in 64bit with 32bit compatibility libs, but the only solution thay have given is how to force urpmi to only upgrade 64bit.
But in my point of view that is not a solution, it is only a workaround.
the real soultion is to fix urpmi to handle this.
Or to use smart instead becuase smart do make theese upgrades automatically.

Couldn't wait for all packages to be available. Had to install it (and now I have no kmail ).

Anyway everything works fine. Only strange thing is that the ksensor digits in kicker look a lot smaller. And kde 3.5.2 kdepim packages are not there yet (and kdeaddon). No other things that I notice.

since we now build 64bit first then rebuild for32bit
is all 64bit there already but not all 32bit yet

that seems like an odd order to do it in...building for 32bit first would be the better way of going, don't ya think (since 32bit systems are more prevelant)? or is it a matter of having a 64bit system available and no 32bit (so you have to cross compile)?

Ditto!

Damn, no kdepim - yet! I'll have to work out how I use jpilot, as I normally use kontact/kpilot.

Still, looks good and so far is working excellently.

regards

John

When will kdepim and kdegraphics be available?

Ha! I'd forgotten about the kde graphics - no wonder I couldn't get the wasp icons to work!

Though I notice that there seems to be a missing library in kdeaddons - the libkdeaddons1-akregator-3.5.2-2.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 is the error "thrown up". Though I do suspect that it might be my own stupidity in forgetting to install something else!

regards

John

Libkdeaddons is available but you can't install it because it's dependent on kdepim-akregator and kdepim-akregator is not available.

Ah, that explains it then :(

It's really weird though, I'm finding all sorts of anomalies. As this is the first time I've tried to do this "in anger".

Trying to get round the lack of kdepim/kontact etc and stuff like amorak.

I've managed to get round the music thing, as I install JuK and worked out how to make it do random plays from my mp3 collection (well, actually FLAC collection - mp3's are crap), but I hit another dependency problem with Opengroupware (it's got a facility for connection to Palm devices i.e. my Treo 650). Something about libpq.so missing, and as I've just been "playing" I haven't sussed that one yet.

So I think it's time for me to go and clean out my fish - their weekly "treat" (not).

regards

John

p.s. Ha! maybe, if I had the faintest idea of what I was doing, these problems would be trivial. Unfortunately, I don't and they aren't either - damn!

If you get an error about a missing file go to: http://rpm.pbone.net/, select Mandriva as your distro and look for it. In this case libpq.so is in libpq4-devel-8.0.7-0.1.20060mdk.i586.rpm. Install that rpm and if that was the only error everything should work again.

As for amarok, I have no problem with it (though I build it from source this time so don't know of any problems with the mde rpm. If the mde version doesn't work try the one at mcnl http://www.mandrivaclub.nl/sources/official/2006/i586/

About the missing kdepim and kdegraphics: patience. Perhaps they have internet connections problems or their mother in laws dropped unexpectedly by. I'm sure the package will appear in the end.

Nah, that didn't work either. It's like it's going into some sort of circular dependency problem. I got the rpm you suggested, but then it started with another error about libpq.so.3 which, according to rpm.pbone.net is only available for 10.X - I tried the rpm for that and gone a different error again.

Great, thanks for that devries. I got the 1.4.0 beta_rc1 version with various engines from the link that you posted. It's just reading my collection now

Yup, I'm trying to be (though in truth I'm a really impatient person ). I noticed that some parts have appeared, but not the bits that I need - yet. Obviously someones been busy.

The annoying bit was, that when I noticed the absence of the kdepim and kdegraphics, I thought that I'd just switch into gnome, uninstall the 3.5.2 components and then install the 3.5.1 stuff instead. It just gave me an error that said it couldn't install the 3.5.1 stuff so I just re-installed the 3.5.2 bits that were on the mirror and left it at that. It wouldn't be a problem if I could get the Opengroupware working, but as I already mentioned, thats being a pain as well!

I wonder if I go to the local shop, they might sell me a large box of patience - It might work {waynesworldquote}and monkeys' might fly out of my butt!{/waynesworldquote}

regards

John

Missing libpq.so.3 :

Try linking: ln -s /usr/lib/libpq.so /ust/lib/libpq.so.3

And it looks kdepim and kdegraphics are there. Only things missing kdetoys. Installing now.

Cann't install kdepim-kontact because of missing kdetoys-weather.

Almost there. Only 2 packages to go.

All packages were already done but i forgot to upload some, my apologies.

Thank you very much. I got the kdepim as well now. Brilliant!

regards

John

All packages are available, so whats the problem?

Devries please do not go to http://rpm.pbone.net/ download packages to mix with MDE packages, please do remember that we do follow Mandriva policy in oposition to some mandriva developers as in consequence some mandriva packages were removed and others created in MDE, so if u go mix mandriva packages with mde packages u will have problems.

So please do not advise users to go to http://rpm.pbone.net/

By the way libmDNSResponder will be obsoleted cause is a bad piece of software, due to that libkecore is requiring the devel package libmDNSResponder-devel, so to replace mdns was already created avahi but that will cause that also kde must be all replaced at least what depends on libkdecore, this was already done for x86_64 and now im doing it for x64, if there is any kind of issue please fill free to report me at once

regards,

Today I upgraded my KDE 3.5.2 with these packages:

libarts1-1.5.2-4.mdk2006.0.mde installed
libavahi-common3-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde installed
arts-1.5.2-4.mdk2006.0.mde installed
libdbus-1_2-0.61-3.mdk2006.0.mde installed
libavahi-client3-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde installed
libavahi-qt3_1-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde installed
libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde installed
kdelibs-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde installed

Then I tried this:

# rpm -e libmDNSResponder1-devel libmDNSResponder1
error: Failed dependencies:
libdns_sd.so is needed by (installed) kdebase-progs-3.5.2-2.mdk2006.0.mde.i586
libmDNSResponder1 is needed by (installed) libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586

If libmDNSResponder1 is obsolete, shouldn't I be able to remove it?

Thanks,
carlash

Dont you think that was already taken care?
When avahi is installed is already removing/obsoleting mDNSResponder else you woudnt be able to install it, it would conflict avahi, so to a smoother install avahi is providing libmDNSResponder.

If you want do rpmquery -a|grep mDNSResponder to see if that package exists.

Thanks for all your work providing KDE 3.5.2.

I had removed mDNSResponder in the past. However, libmDNSResponder1-98-4mdk and libmDNSResponder1-devel-98-4mdk are still installed. See below:

# rpmquery -a|grep mDNSResponder
libmDNSResponder1-devel-98-4mdk
libmDNSResponder1-98-4mdk

When I try to remove both of these packages:

# rpm -e libmDNSResponder1-devel libmDNSResponder1
error: Failed dependencies:
libdns_sd.so is needed by (installed) kdebase-progs-3.5.2-2.mdk2006.0.mde.i586
libmDNSResponder1 is needed by (installed) libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586

Or when I try to remove one at a time:

# rpm -e libmDNSResponder1
error: Failed dependencies:
libmDNSResponder1 = 98 is needed by (installed) libmDNSResponder1-devel-98-4mdk.i586
libmDNSResponder1 is needed by (installed) libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586
# rpm -e libmDNSResponder1-devel
error: Failed dependencies:
libdns_sd.so is needed by (installed) kdebase-progs-3.5.2-2.mdk2006.0.mde.i586

I believe the above is telling me that libmDNSResponder1-devel and libmDNSResponder1 are needed by kdebase-progs-3.5.2-2.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 and libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 respectively.

Let me reword my question. If mDNSResponder is obsolete and removed, shouldn't I be able to remove libmDNSResponder1-devel and libmDNSResponder1?

Thanks,
carlash

Lets see if i can explain myself, when i first build avahi and installed the existant libkdecore was removed due to not satisfy libmdns.so so due to this all libkdecore dependent/based packages was removed, but this wouldnt happen now since it exists there a new kdelibes release 6 and also for kdebase a release 6 but i see you dont have that kdebase ad this is also my fault since i already have it build but i forgot to upload it, upload it now though.

However isnt the fitst time that happens to me forgeting to upload packages and this happens because i have simply to many work on my hands, i usually forst build kde for x86_64 and then build for x86 though.

The previous libkdecore releases were requring libmdns.so that is a devel file from libmDNSResponder-devel wich is wrong, but that only happens to the bad mDNSResponder libraries since now with avahi all is as it should be.

Dont get how is possible for you still have libmDNSResponder1 installed since is removed with avahi install, so that shows me that you have installed with --nodeps ot just forced installation. In that case dont put these kind of questions/reports, so its natural now you have wat you posted.

Still im gg to build a new kdelibs that renforces avahi kdelibs require, since i had a condition that is user uses mandriva inferiror to 2006 would need libmDNSRespoder wich is correct and needed but there is a issue (still dont know if is a issue) because libavahi -compat-libdns_sd still provides libMDNSResponder1 wich exists to be a smooth upgrade to avahi.

Well as I didn't really understand those last posts, but am having the same problem, could someone advise me as to what the best solution would be i.e. do I bin the current installed version of KDE (3.5.2-2) and then re-install with the 3.5.2-6 version?

or is there a more "eloquent" way of getting round it ?

thanks in advance.

regards

John

The usual way?

Thanks again for all your work providing KDE 3.5.2.

However, to be clear, I did not install using --nodeps.

Today I installed your latest kdebase packages using urpmi and then I manually removed libmDNSResponder1-devel.

But, I still cannot remove libmDNSResponder1 because it is needed by libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586. See command line output below:

# rpm -e libmDNSResponder1
error: Failed dependencies:
libmDNSResponder1 is needed by (installed) libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586

Thanks,
carlash

Simply isnt possible for you have libmDNSResponder installed if you did installed avahi, so if you still have libmDNSResponder1you did forced the instalation with --nodeps of force or --replacefiles or --replacepkgs whatever.

If you want to uninstall simply also force the uninstall with for example rpm -e --nodeps or urpme --allow-nodeps.

Ah! Obviously I don't know the "usual" way.

I suspect that it's best to bin it all from gnome then, as that should (from what I understand) not cause a problem with this libdns thing (hopefully).

thanks for the pointer.

regards

John

We do advise smart as the install/update/uninstall manager tool but you can still use the mandriva tools urpmi/rpmdrake.
Gnome? As i remember we didnt provide any new gnome packages.

I'm sorry but you are mistaken. It is possible to have libmDNSResponder installed with installed avahi. See the following 2 CLI outputs:

$ rpm -qa --last | grep -i dns
libmDNSResponder1-98-4mdk -- Wed 26 Oct 2005 03:23:38 PM CDT

(Please note that libmDNSResponder1 was installed 26 Oct 2005, which is date of my original installation of Mandriva 2006.0.)

and

$ rpm -qa | grep avah
libavahi-client3-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde
libavahi-compat-howl0-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde
libavahi-common3-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde
libavahi-core4-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde
libavahi-qt3_1-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde
avahi-0.6.9-5.mdk2006.0.mde

And I do not install packages with --nodeps or --force or --replacefiles or --replacepkgs or whatever because I don't want to break things.

The following CLI output tells me that libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586 requires libmDNSResponder1:

# rpm -e libmDNSResponder1
error: Failed dependencies:
libmDNSResponder1 is needed by (installed) libkdecore4-3.5.2-6.mdk2006.0.mde.i586

I prefer to not remove packages with rpm -e --nodeps or urpme --allow-nodeps because I don't want to start breaking things.

It seems to me that the correct and/or proper choice would be to fix libkdecore4 so that it does not require libmDNSResponder1.

Thanks again for all your work providing KDE 3.5.2 packages.

Regards,
carlash

No you are entirely correct mmodem - but it provides me with alternative GUI to play a game or two during downloads etc

I did try SMART once before, but I managed to screw things up so reverted to the urpmi.

Damn! I suppose I'll have to start reading up on smart now - not that I'm bright enough to understand any of it :(

Never mind eh! I managed to sort it by kicking into gnome and removing older/installing newer.

Thanks for your hard work though, It's great to be able have the "latest/greatest" when mandriva only want to provide the newer stuff when they release a new distro version. It's very much appreciated.

regards

John

I have a fresh Mandriva Powerpack 2006 here, there is a tutorial on how to install new kde
and yes I am noob, please help me (I already added PLF packages to the urpmi)

Add MDE repo
Log out of KDE and boot into Icewm (if icewm is not installed: urpmi icewm)
Open MCC
Remove kde packages
Install mde xorg
install mde qt
install kde

Good luck

I dont know how you have done things.
In my system i have avahi and when avahi is installed it obsoletes mDNSResponder so i really dont make a clue how you still have mDNSResponder installed, still ill enforce it in next kdelibs release that ill do today.

I cant add MDE repo, always the connection is closed before it gets the source. Its about 13.1MB.

OKAY I DID

Sorry, I will try to install it now, I will keep in touch with any problems

Well, this not help to much

I reinstalled my mandriva with gnome 2.10, and I want to install Kde 3.5.2 (as I love KDE)

But things are, which commands should I use to install kde, have to select one by one package, is not there more a simple way. Thx in advance

Urpmi will take care of dependencies. Have a look in the wiki (link at top of the page) how to install software on mandriva.

What part of the instructions did you not understand?

Install mde xorg
install mde qt
install kde

I tiped urpmi mde xorg
etc to install
didn't work

kde has a lot of packages so, I dont know what I want

You must (well not must but I find it more convenient since you will have to install a few 100 packages and a GUI gives a better overview) install through the MCC (look in the wiki) in Icewm. Boot into icewm, open the MCC, search for xorg and install the mde packages. Here some screenshots to make things more clear.

you have instrutions in mde webpage, read it.

Is mde homepage http://www.mde.djura.org/ ??? Because there I dont see where I can get instructions

sorry for being totally noob on installing another window manager

I FIND =)

Now how do I do this???

"go to runlevel 3 with init 3"

For what i see this is the first yo install mde rpms (i mean rpms )

So the first steps about adding urpmi repositories i see that you alredy saw it in our mde webpage.

If you would have read previous posts here in mandrivausers.org you would see all your doubts taken, anyway ill explain again.

So in first i do recommend uninstall the kde you have installed since if changing versions will cause that some menus will appear twice (still didnt had the time to fix this), to do that you can use in kde the tool rpmdrake-remove.

Then you run again rpmdrake and choose the mde kde rpms and install them, if you for some reason you logout of the kde session where from you uninstalled kde, you can still enter in icew or in gnome (case you have installed gnome) and run rpmdrake and install kde.

I think that in icew you dont have menus to run rpmdrake by click, so you have to run a console/terminal and as root type rpmdrake.

Or you can also (this considering you still are in the kde session where from you uninstalled kde), open a console/terminal, become root and then just type
init 3
then press enter and you will enter in text mode, from there you can simple run as root:
urpmi kdebase-suite
and you will get the necessary kde packages installed to enter again in kde, then you can install the restant packages.
After you have done urpmi kdebase-suite in init 3 mode, you can just reboot or jur type again as root:
init 5
and you will return to the previous session.

hope now you get it.

I on a friends computer as my internet is not so fast, its downloading and installing the packages

I notice that you dont have the kde-i18n-pt_BR since Im from brazil, is there a way i can implement this or u can make the rpm for that language

sorry again for trobling you



Thx in advance

So far you have the kde-i18n-pt thats is also Portuguese.
We used to do the i18n packages but we stopped since its very time comsuming and so far there wasnt mmore any users complaining about, so we only do our languages, portuguese and sweden, but we can do if users do request.
Ill ask Thac to also do for Portuguese Brasilian.

By the way you instead get the packages by rpmdrake (that will erase packages after installed) you could instead use urpmi --noclean that will leave the packages in /var/cache/urpmi or first download the packages locally and add that local media as an local repository as i do.

ok ill do a pt-br rpm

Thx guys, but now Im getting problems from your repositirory

" A aquisição falhou: curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404" with a lot of this files
I readded mde.rpms to my midia database

Thx

both ze and i have added lots of new stuff today so it has been a lot of updaing in repo
i suggest you remove and readd repo again

Thanks just installed now and it works perfectly =))))

Keep the good work and thanks for the translation! =)

I am trying to compile KTorrent 1.2 on KDE 3.5.2

checking for KDE... configure: error:
in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
So, check this please and use another prefix!

I installed kde using urpmi kdebase-suite

Still dont get what that have to do with us, ask to ktorrent developers, but you must provide more info to be able to people help you, meanwhile see config-log.