Post all bugs and problems you have with Thac and Zé's KDE 3.4 rpms in this topic.

Warning: If you open Kontact for the first time after installing KDE 3.4 don't get a hardattck like I almost did when you don't see your emails. They are still in $HOME/.Mail (copy them to .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail)

i really would like to know more about this problem of yours.

/Torbjörn Turpeinen (Thac)

since in my install kmail does use the ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail dir

/Torbjörn Turpeinen (Thac)

sorry i didnt read your post carefully enough.
but its true alot of things has changed in 3.4.0
it is a lot bigger difference then from 3.2 to 3.3

I noticed a few changes (just minor annoyances). My kicker settings where changed so that must be usisng a new config. And a lot of my shortcut buttons where changed. Other than that it's working great.

PS you can use the edit button to add something to a previous post.

ok
im building the final i18n rpms now i will make them public later today

Ok KDE 3.4 looks sweet any bugs?? how hard would be be for me to upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4? When i went to 3.3 i used the rpms on my PowerPack CD.
Thanks,
SC

Just use urpmi: urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac/10.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz

And: urpmi kdebase That will give you a working kde install. After that you can install all the other packages kdemultimedia, pim edu etcetc. (You have ofcourse to restart kde with for example ctr-alt-backspace)

cool i'll have to try it!

after adding the THAC RPM source and typing urpmi kdebase, I get this error message:




Anyone know how I can get around that?

TIA

Nate


EDIT: Okay, nevermind, I went with the "nuclear option". I went init 3, urpme qt3 and then urpmi kdebase.

Now EVERYTHING is FUBAR and kmenueditor is crashing. Oh well, what are ya gonna do?

This is great

This means that urpmi isn't setup correctly (not all sources/repositories arre available) or the sources are not up to date (urpmi.update -a). If something loke this happens don't uninstall but run urpmi.update and try again.

Your problem: could be config problems so rename the .kde folder and start kde again.

i should remind you that to use my rpms i have specific requirements for what urpmi repositorys
that should be used.
mandrake Main,Contrib, plf and mine (thacs)

/Torbjörn Turpeinen (Thac)

hehehe, just got the kde3.4 installed, thanks thac, so far, am not encountered any problem yet...

im not using mandrake much, and not definitely not kde, but thacs you are a gun! keep the packages up

Hey, thanks for the reply. I ended up just reinstalling 3.2 back on to the system. But since all I would have had to do was update the urpmi database, maybe I'll try it again.

As for the menudrake problem, I tried renaming my .kde folder and the menu started having 3 copies of every entry. Menudrake was still crashing. Maybe menudrake doesn't like KDE 3.4?

Is there a way to dump menudrake and if so what does KDE have that'll do the same thing natively?

Nate

BTW: THAC, you are awesome. Compiling all that stuff must have taken forever. Not to mention the specialized know-how. I am extremely jealous.

For the 3 entry problem: delete $HOME/.local
For kmenu, open menusdrake, click menu style and choose 'native' (or something ike that. can't remember the exact wording).

Sorry i dont think i read your first post carefully enogh but now i did.
i should guess that your problem is caused by the fact that you dowloaded
all in kde-3.4.0 dir an installed from there.
But since the qt rpm has not changed is theese still in the kde-3.3.2 folder this goes
for the new xgd menu system and not to forget the xorg-6.8.2 rpms.

So a proper urpmi database setup is the most important thing to manage then the install is very simple

as root type urpmi kdebase

/Torbjörn Turpeinen (Thac)

argh!
I got in a dependency hell with xorg-x11-devel
kdebase requires it, and when I try to install the xorg-devel I get asked for devel(libexpat), freetype6, etc. I completely screwed up my fonts and had to reinstall mdk twice when trying to completely follow the dependency requests. And it seems that even urpmi --force is not allowing me to install xorg-devel :(

once again ceck the required urpmi repositorys.
you must have 5 of them
1.mandrake main
2.mandrake contrib
3. plf 10.1 free
4. plf non-free
5. thacs rpm

if not there will be failed dependencys

and yes kde-3.4.0 requires xorg-6.8.2

Well i installed it... Its very cool..There are acouple of little things like i had a great screensaver called Kfireworks that's gone it was part of 3.3 but not part of 3.4?? anyway there is also an issue with Kontact i can't send out any emails, but my mozilla messenger is working fine. does anyone know where i can get that firework screensaver??
oh ya ,
Thac you the Man!!!!!!!
keep up the great work!
-Shadowchaser
opps the name of the screensaver is KFiresaver3D ....

Added a new package
mandrakelinux-kde-config-file
that contains the updated splash and ksidebar images for kde 3.4
enjoy

/Torbjörn Turpeinen (Thac)

Not a very pretty splashscreen.....

true
but try to make that 4 with gimp better if you like

I am not famaliar with upgrade, since I click the link and there sare tons of lists, and I was wondering which one that will upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4? I looked and I think if kde-i18n-ar-3.4.0-1.mdk10.1.thac.noarch.rpm the one that will upgrade to 3.4?

I have those lists, except the thacs rpm, how did you add to MCC? what kind of methods to download from?

from my site on
http://rpm.nyvalls.se/index10.1.html

Type this in a console as root, to add my RPMS to the urpmi database.
urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://rpm.nyvalls.se/10.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz

Check this page to add some more RPM resources to the urpmi database.
Easy urpmi config for Mandrake

or from

http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac/index10.1.html

Type this in a console as root, to add my RPMS to the urpmi database.
urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac/10.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz

Check this page to add some more RPM resources to the urpmi database.
Easy urpmi config for Mandrake

Like this?

thac me, it works...!

Umm, I never saw owt like the above. Perhaps that's only if you were using the default splash by default (I go for that cheeky 'Redmond' one myself )

Mind you, the side-image on the KMenu (which didn't change when I upped to 3.3) is now looking appropriately show-offish.

My custom taskbar buttons for Firefox and Tbird disappeared, and I'm not too sure about the MASSIVE tooltips for those buttons, but otherwise nothing blew up so I'm happy.

Thac you very much.

BTW - Knoppix3.7 (KDE3.3.2) has XP-style file info tooltips when you mouseover a file on desktop / in Konqueror. Me like. How to get?

Thanks thac,

I found other place, and now I have thac in my MCC.. I did:
urpmi.addmedia thacs.rpms http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/thac/10.1/RPMS with hdlist.cz

Is that relate to the one you gave me?
I tried to download KDE 3.4, but apparently I can't make it install from MCC. But I am thinking if I could try with your either RPM or SRPM. Can you tell me which one I should install from RPM or SPRM?

Currently, I have MDK 10.1, KDE 3.2.3... Is there other things I need to know before able to complete the installation with KDE 3.4?

Thanks again!

I am not quite sure about KDE 3.4, Currently I am using KDE 3.2.3 and I was wondering if that 3.4 is "upgrade OS" from 3.2 version?

This is the one you have in KDE control center which indicated that you have 3.4 version upgrade while I have 3.2.3 as current and if I would like to upgrade to 3.4 just you did that appeared in KDE control center.

BTW, sorry, I should have edit them instead of three seperate!

now I found one, this is regarding switching DM, when using mdkKDM and XDM, fine, but using KDM. upon loading the splash screen, it will crashed, it says.. ( kdmgreet ) crashed.
anyway, it wont be a problem since i preferred using XDM, but there should be a fix on this one

Thanks Thac!

Got it working eventually, though I did it on a fresh install and had to urpme out kdeaddons halfway through the urpmi-athon.

Few problems, which I presume are related to how mandrake relates to KDE - CDRoms wouldn't automount (sorted it), Can't go straight to turning off the computer (have to log off and 'reboot' or 'halt' now, even if I press 'turn off the computer') and the shadowing / translucency options do horrible things to my system speed. Will keep it until 10.2 final comes out tho

thac, or anyone, could you say if this changes the Mandrake kmenu layout (Office, Internet, Media, System, More Applications) to the standard kde default (with a zillion categories)?

Didn't change them for me

I have just made a clean install of the 10.2rc1 dvd
and will start with building kde-3.4.0 for it

/Torbjörn Turpeinen (Thac)

I just upgraded from 3.3 to 3.4thac and it apears I have lost my bookmarks in Konqueror. Anyway to restore them? I'm still looking around, but this "looks" very nice. I've also lost most of my kicker settings, e.g, all the menu buttons I set in kicker. Guess I'll be playing around to get them back.

Also, if I login with KDM, all I get is a single window-manager-less console. KDE itself does not apear to start. However, issuing 'startx' from a console brings up my KDE session.

Other oddities include: Super Karamba has lost it's transparency, but I'll see if you have an updated package available.

Nice work Thac.

Could anyone imagine if Thac and TexStar got together on a distro? It would most likely be very nice and upto date. Mandrake should just hire these two.

are 1, and 2 on mandrakeclub.com?

where are 3 and 4?

I have 5. I'm sorry if these are common sense questions, but i'm new to linux, and I'm trying hard to learn how it works

EDIT: neverming I found 3 and 4 I believe. sorrry.

I have followed steps and steps until I typed urpmi kdebase and it appeared "questionaires" example:

[root@localhost]# urpmi kdebase
One of the following packages is needed:
1- uClibc-devel-0.9.21-3mdk.i586 : Development files for uClibc (to install)
2- glibc-devel-2.3.3-23.1.101mdk.i586 : Header and object files for development using standard C libraries (to install)
What is your choice? (1-2)

I am currently use KDE 3.2 and Xorg 6.8.2 (which I just upgrade it) Do I need to upgrade KDE 3.3 first before going for 3.4?

No you don't have to update to 3.3 to go to 3.4 just make sure the you have all the repostories.
1.mandrake main
2.mandrake contrib
3. plf 10.1 free
4. plf non-free
5. thacs rpm

you can use Easy-Urpmi to get them.
PS use glibc-devel-2.3.3-23.1.101mdk.i586
good luck

I have 5 of those above and downloaded worked beautiful until I restarted the compuer; I think I am in big trouble since the bug appeared after boot,

SHORT DESCRIPTION
The application unknown (kdegreet) crashed & cause the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

They only allowed full terminal and behind little bit of background. That is it...

Pray to recover? Thanks...

Hmmm, now I seem to be installing a lot of apps. that I didn't previously have. Should I have flagged thac's repo as --updates?

(This is on second round of urpmi --auto-select, 2 days after first installing kde3.4)

Eeek! TBH, if you're as much as a linux newb as me then I'd stick with default Mandrake/DE until you really feel confident about what you're doing - perhaps mandrake will include a fourth 3.4 disk with the upcoming 1.2 release, like they did with 1.1 and KDE3.3?

My update to 3.4-thac went very smoothly, once again thanks thac!

Here is my little problem: The lilo entries have disappeared from the kdm screen. In 3.2.x and 3.3.x the lilo entries used to be under "Restart Computer" when selecting "Shutdown" from the kdm login screen, now they are gone. Also I have seen on a screenshot that under 3.4 the lilo options also exist on the window that appears when a user selects logout -- they are not there, either, in my system.

Do lilo entries appear on your 3.4 kdm/logout dialog?

Thank you in advance.

Oh bugger. I seem to have now got things FUBAR as well.

Full symptoms here if anyone cares to have a look (pretty please...)

http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showtopic=23905

Hi all,

I'd just like to take a moment to share my troubles upgrading to KDE 3.4

First, I tried to use Konstruct to do it, but it was using the wrong directory (~/kde3.4)
I havent got a clue how I can use that folder to start KDE 3.4 automatically and googled a lot, but couldnt find it.

Secondly, I changed the path that Konstruct uses to /usr. This worked, except that my menu was empty, and basically nothing worked. (including the kde configuration apps) --> System wrecked

After a reinstall, I found that thac had rpms! GREAT!
So, I did a urpmi --auto-select and the system doesn't boot anymore (hangs after alsa starts)

Next reinstall.. here we are now.. Which leads to my question: What is the SAFEST way to upgrade to KDE 3.4?

Thanks,
Vorik

The safest way is to know what you are doing . And urpmi is quite easy to get to know.

For the alsa problem press ctrl - c. The boot process should continue.

Thac: I had the same problem as described here with one of my email accounts (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97139). I solved it by installing the sasl plugin pachages but I guess kmail is dependent on it so these packages should be installed as dependencies.

Ok...now my issue.

First, I had another, unrelated kernel problem but I got that fixed. Now I have a KDE problem, I think I know what might fix it, but I want to check first.

Here's the deal: nothing works. My desktop settings weren't saved, so my side panels are gone (see my latest KDE screenshots at http://www.liquidzoo.net to know what I mean). This, I believe, is caused by the fact that the kicker panels are now simply called panels, instead of Child Panels like they were in 3.3 and 3.2. Something changed in the later versions of 3.3.2 because even saving the desktop settings doesn't work. I have 2 fully transparent Eterms that do not start correctly (buttonbar and scrollbar are visible).

I *think* that I can solve these issues by logging out, moving my ~/.kde folder and logging in again. I'll try it when I get home from work (unless someone else has another suggestion) but I do have another question: I was under the impression that 3.4 had the option to start another KDE session (like the XP Switch User option) so I could leave my desktop up and have my fiancee log into hers. I can't find this option anywhere, though. Anyone know?