Hello guys

I have problem login in mandrake 10.0 Official Power Pack. After the lilo bootsctrap (every thing looks ok)
the monitor turns black and I do not get any thing (Mandrake GUI) nor a login console. Here is my spec:

Intel D850MV motherboard
Pentium 4 Processor 2.0 GHZ 478 Pin
Geforce 3 TI-500 64 MB Grafics card
Nec Multisync FE950+ CRT monitor
358 MB Ram (rimm)
Adapted 29160N U160 scsi controler
IBM Ultrastar 36.4 GB
CNET network card
ADSL starbridge modem
Linksys wrt54G router
Mandrake 10.0 Official Power Pack ( downloaded from mandrake club)
Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse

Do someone knows what the problem might be?
IF you do please reply

at lilo press Esc and type
linux splash=quiet vga=normal
and press Enter.

work?

Yes it works but. after when the gui must start the screen turns black and I cant get nothing to try to repair the system.

Thanks for reply

could you try to explain better? Do you mean you can boot fine but when the gui (X) comes up, it doesn't?
What video card?

Yes, my system bootsup good but the gui (kde) wont start and my screen turns black. Also I do not get an console to try to start kde. I have an Nvidia geforce 3 Ti-500 64 mb.

Gregory

I know that card is one of the buggier nvidia's for X.
Have you installed the nvidia driver from nvidia? There's a HowTo in the FAQ Section.
You say it boots fine, but you have no console? That's not booting fine.

Yes your right. But now how should I do without a console? Schould I try installing via text install inplace of a gui install? You tell me I have no idea what to do.

Thanks, gregory

If you have no console, something is wrong. If you cannot login at the command line, then you can't do anything. Reinstall. Just to be sure, if you downloaded, check the md5sum of the iso files prior to burning, and then burn with quality media at 12X or slower.

What happens if you boot;
linux 1

At lilo press Esc and type
linux 1
and press Enter.

do you have a console?

lx, the only thing wrong is that Aliendrake has not only nvidia but a gf3-ti. I have a gf4 and do not have a functioning console unless I turn off framebuffer/boot splash=quiet vga=normal. It's a common nvidia problem that is solved time and again (even a few in the past few days) but it does not work with gf3-ti's. I don't know why.

I thought he had no command line from which to work. My mistake.

sounds like he/she doesn't have a command line even at boot, but said boot up was fine. I assume that means it's fine til X fails....then they have no commandline. That_is_nvidia.

Yes, that is my situation. Every thing works fine (lilo) until when kde must begin to load, the monitor turns black. I have allready tried at lilo ESC -> linux splash=quit vga=normal and press enter but it do not work. Its like is BVC says: a G3TI-500 bugg.

Gregory

so, you can't get a commandline if you boot to init 1?
How bout rescue mode with cd1?

What should I do to go at init 1?

I would hit esc at the splash and type 'linux 3", press enter. Should get you to a command line. Log in and edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to load "nv" as a driver instead of "vesa" which is what I think it currently says.

lol, I was assuming it already said nv, which why I said to try vesa, lol.

Does the powerpack still have the nvidia driver? If so, it was probably installed during install if you said you had nvidia or it detected it. So then, nv would be the way to go next, untill you get nvidia's driver from nvidia.com.

Some have had issues with their display and had to disable acpi? or apic? at boot;
linux 3 acpi=off

try turningyour monitor on and off.

My friend had a similar problem and that worked.

Thank, finaly i can get a console to login, and can you explain step by step how to config te XF86Config-4 file. I have heard of vi but never used it. I am a newbie. Thanks I finaly see some progress.

Gregory

I tried to config /etc/x11/xf86config-4 file. When I use the command -> cd /etc
->cd /x11 it give me file do not exit. Can you show me how to configure the /etc/x11/XF86Config-4 file?

Thanks,
Gregory

At the command line, type "su", and then the root password, then type "mc". You will be presented with a gui ish type of file manager that is similar to the old dosshell program. It ts easy to navigate to files. Highlight the file you want to edit and hit F4. Yu are then in thefile and you can do what you need. Hit F2 to save your changes and F10 to exit. The navigation instructions are at the bottom of the screen.

Go to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, hit F4, and find the section below.


Change to Driver "nv"

I have change the driver to "nv" and than save it (F2) but after I save it it gives me "save as dialog box" and I tried to save it in the same file. It gives me a message that i cant save the file. What did I wrong?

Gregory

Thanks to you all that have support me with this problem, I appreciate that alot.. After I have change the driver to " nv " I was able to start x and go into the GUI

Once again many thanks to you all
Gregory

Good job! (Just a note to anyone reading this, you forgot to "su" to root before launching mc.)

so if you changed it to nv, what was it? nvidia? (poewerpack nvidia driver?)

Does the nvidia.com driver work?

Hallo, guys

After I was able to start X. what should I do to make X. to start automaticly without going via console?

PS.
Yes, bvc, it was powerpack nvidia geforce 3 (generic) driver

Su to root, type "mc" and navigate to /etc/inittab

Find a line near the top that says


And change it to read


Please be careful when editing this particular file. You can render your system unbootable by messing it up! (What if? cd1 rescue mode or MEPIS!)

I will try it when I go home.

Every time when I boot I have to go:
ESC->
linux 3->
username:->
password:->
su->
password:->
mc:->
etc/X11/XF86Config-4
F4->
change device: "nvidia" driver to "nv"
F2->
F10->
F10->
exit->
When I exit "su"mode and Iam in nomal user mode, then can I start X and login in to GUI.
But I want X to automaticly. When I do what you have what you have told me to do, change :id:3:initdefault: to :id:5:initdefault: will it then start the normal way?

Thanks,
Gregory

Your edit to XF86Config-4 should stay. In fact, what you describe is inittab already set to default 5 (gui) . You shuld only have to change the driver once. Are you saying that X re-writes itself back to the nvidia draiver?

Yes. I saved the config-4. But after restart my computer I need to reconfig the nvdia driver again.

Thanks for repling xthusdan,
Gregory

Instead of editing, try this: su to root and type "modprobe nvidia"
Then startx. f ti works you can manually add the nvidia driver to /etc/modules.conf or reinstall the driver using the nvidia installer.

Download it from http://www.nvidia.com

Hallo,

Is there a simple manual how to use nvidia reinstaller or could you break it down in pieces?

Hey men, many thanks for your support, it has been an long way since.

Gregory

The Nvidia installer is really easy. Just boot to the command line ( or su to root and type "init 3" in a console), and login. su to root, go to the directory you have downloaded the installer and Type" sh Nvidia-Linux-x86-1.0-6106.pkg1.run" (or the exact name of the installer).

It will initialize, tell you there is a driver present, remove it and install again. The simple manual is on the nvidia web-sight. Nvidia has excellent linux support.

Hallo, Ixthusdan
Many but many thanks men, it works. I have done what your said and I got it work.

realy thanks,
Gregory.