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#16 User is offline   bvc 

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Posted 07 November 2003 - 07:17 AM

It may be. I know they were trying with ie, and ie and opera are having probs with
http://home.houston....s/contact2.html
on my win2k.

OK, so I used the gimp to enhance most of the images, and yes for now they're still huge/slow gif's. Don't worry, they'll be changed but I need to figure out why gimp on my ML9.2 will not allow me to save ANYTHING as a jpg :o/> ...I mean :o/> ...what's that about? :o/>

It's looking alot better though :P/>
mine
http://home.houston.rr.com/bvc/gs/

work
http://www.gulfstreamgraphics.net/



I tried to use the background mystified pm'd me with;
http://home.satx.rr..../CD%20Cover.jpg
but it wanted to tile. No, I haven't messed with a css yet and that should take care of that right?. I hope. Rt now, you can't compare to many of the pages because the ones at work can't find their images. Will upload these pages tomorrow, then start on the real clean up and css file.
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Posted 07 November 2003 - 11:36 AM

>>Did you validate the CSS for the page too?
>there's is no css for the site. Hopefully that'll change.

Actually there is, the background colour and background image are both set in CSS - I think that this is whats causing the problem.
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Posted 07 November 2003 - 12:58 PM

Hmmmm....nope, just loooked again....so if there is one, you'll have to give a link.

..and, if I go;
http://mywebpages.co...t.net/MUB2/bvc/
with my 1280x1024, the rt side of the screen is a white, blank, strip. Can a small image like this be made to stretch/fit a bigger res? Like a tile;
http://home.houston.rr.com/bvc/
repeats and fills the resolution, can that be done with a none-tile? I've looked;
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1
but don't see that it can.....unless I'm missing/not understanding something.
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Posted 07 November 2003 - 05:40 PM

heheheh
 <style type="text/css">

body

{

background-image: url(images/gulf.jpg);
background-attachment: fixed;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: top-left;
background-color: DarkBlue

}

</style>

this way the image fills the screen and is fixed so that everything else scrolls....but ya'll probably knew that :D/>

mystified to answaer your thought about a 'color'......the css docs say to specify a color for when the image is not available. So it's a good thing.
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Posted 07 November 2003 - 06:02 PM

I never doubted that you'd figure it out! :P/>
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Posted 07 November 2003 - 10:24 PM

suuUUUuure. Then, if it's not fixed, and moves....how? 100%?

BTW, there's still no css file. It's in the index.htlm as scoopy explained.
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Posted 07 November 2003 - 10:44 PM

bvc, on Nov 7 2003, 02:58 AM, said:

OK, so I used the gimp to enhance most of the images, and yes for now they're still huge/slow gif's. Don't worry, they'll be changed but I need to figure out why gimp on my ML9.2 will not allow me to save ANYTHING as a jpg :o/> ...I mean  :o/> ...what's that about? :o/>

You will get different options to save depending on the type of image you have opened. If you opened the .GIF file, this is an indexed color image, which the JPEG file type can not handle. You need to convert the color mode to RGB, and then you should be able to save as a .JPG file.

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Then, if it's not fixed, and moves....how? 100%?

I don't know what you are trying to ask here --- or which page you are looking at. I seen one of your pages currently has the background image linked to your D: drive, so I will not be able to view that one. Another page you have the background image contained within HTML code, so that one is gonna move with the text (remember that background-image thing is a CSS trick and not HTML code). I did not see any pages using the suggested css code (whether linked to an external file, or tucked inside the HEAD tags) which should make it do what you would like:
background-attachment: fixed;
background-repeat: no-repeat;

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Posted 07 November 2003 - 10:48 PM

I did do some research in css and found one page that listed for the background portion, width: 100%;

Never tried it so it I don't know if it works. You're going to have to create an external style sheet and link to it on each page. If you want an example look at the source on my web page. HTH If not, just ignore me. :lol:/>
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 01:21 AM

scoopy said:

You will get different options to save depending on the type of image you have opened. If you opened the .GIF file, this is an indexed color image, which the JPEG file type can not handle. You need to convert the color mode to RGB, and then you should be able to save as a .JPG file
I see that now. I was able to make a png>then jpg somehow :mellow:/>

mystified understands what I'm asking, I think. I'm curious how to use;
http://home.satx.rr..../CD%20Cover.jpg
as the background, w/o having it fixed, so that it and the text scroll normally. I'll tinker with the 100% thing and let you know.

Don't look at the site rt now, it's a mess. The big_man (boss/owner) had her doing some things for him so she had to stop working on it. This page;
http://www.gulfstreamgraphics.net/
is currently using your suggested code, almost as you suggested. Your page and css code in the .html;
http://mywebpages.co...t.net/MUB2/bvc/
<style type="text/css">

body

{

background-image: url(images/gulf.jpg);

background-repeat: no-repeat;

background-position: top left;

}

</STYLE>


our page and the adjusted code in the html;
http://www.gulfstreamgraphics.net/
  <style type="text/css">

body

{

background-image: url(CDCover.GIF);

background-attachment: fixed;

background-position: Top Left

background-repeat: no-repeat;

}

  </style>


Now, I did this with a further enhanced;
http://home.satx.rr..../CD%20Cover.jpg
and it worked great! She chose to edit the code b4 receiving my email containing my enhanced version of mystified's CD%20Cover.jpg.

I do plan to make css files for most of the pages. In fact, I'm having fun learning it and may continue to play with it, and built it from nothing. They also want ourt sister co.'s site redone.
http://www.goldenbannerpress.com/
:cheeky:/>

BTW, I'm using css on my site.
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 03:56 AM

But don't get locked into thinking you have to use css for the background image. CSS is great but if you find a way to do it easier in html then use it. I don't see why you have to have a "fixed" position, top, left. I used a fixed polition cause I was trying to create a certain effect. You just need a background image. I'll play with it tomorrow both ways and see what I can come up with for you.

And good on you for learning so much so fast! :P/>
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 04:43 AM

You're right.
http://home.houston.rr.com/bvc/gs/
http://home.houston....s/contact2.html
I realize now (the idiot I am) that it was because my resolution at work is 800x600. So it apeared to be stretched to window size. I google and found that there is no way with css to change the image size...only position and the other few options. I tried tonight what I thought I did today at work and what I posted above....but it doesn't work. Images will not stretch.
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 06:12 PM

so many links!


anyway i tried a few of the pages you suggested on my mac and i have to say all images were very grainy. and for the front page the image apperars to be tiled so if you look at it on a larg monitor like on my linux machine you get an annoying tiled bacground.
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 08:22 PM

thanks sarah31! Which pages? What resolution? What browser?

These are on my sever space and are the pages I'm working on;
http://home.houston.rr.com/bvc/gs/
They are fine (generally) with

ML9.2 -Mozilla and family
Win2k -Opera, Mozilla, and IE6

at
800x600
1024x768
1280x1024

I can't go any higher and I re-did the background image in Photoshop to 1280x1024;
http://home.houston..../gs/CDCover.jpg

I'm dealing with the font issues rt now (coverting to the css file), and as far as the images go well, I don't have a lot to work with. I should hopefully next week though if I can get the prepress mgr to give me the originals.
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Posted 08 November 2003 - 09:52 PM

Here's another one for you. I tried it at 3 different resolutions. http://home.satx.rr....ified/zoom3.htm

The img I used is in my /img called gulf.jpg if you're interested.

Edit - I added text to it using anti-aliasing, it's not perfect but it looks better. Also at lower resolutions you have to scroll sideways for your link. I didn't set my image size and I didn't have to.
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Posted 09 November 2003 - 06:10 PM

sorry i cannot get any connect to the link in the above two posts. the first one says there are no files the other ones time out.

for me the cover page image and the contact page both seemed tiled on my linux computer. on the mac all images were grainy at 1024x768. with the mac on the extreme right of the browser area you could see the image repeating.

while i don't mind the backgroaund image i wonder if you should have it as the entire background. i am a big fan of table an maybe have the image take up a table on the left 1/3 of the screen with necessary link with the rest of the screen devoted to text descriptions or whatever the other 2/3 could have a very light bue tint.
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