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Are all SB Live sound card owners screwed?

#1 User is offline   no21 

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Posted 22 March 2004 - 09:05 PM

From what I've gathered from searching the web for hours, the SB Live no-sound issue is common.

But all I want to do know is....does a solution exist?

I feel like I've tried every suggested fix in all the different threads relating to this issue, and nothing works.

I'm running MDK 10 CE.

Mandrake Control Center says this about my sound card:

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Vendor: ‎Creative Labs
Alternative drivers: ‎audigy:emu10k1
Bus: ‎PCI
Bus identification: ‎1102:6:1102:1003
Location on the bus: ‎2:9:0
Description: ‎[SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X
Module: ‎snd-emu10k1
Media class: ‎MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO
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When I run lsmod, this is returned:
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[root@localhost etc]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
md5 3872 1
ipv6 232352 13
sg 38044 0
sr_mod 17060 0
lp 12200 0
snd-seq-midi 8160 0
snd-emu10k1-synth 6816 0
snd-emux-synth 36320 1 snd-emu10k1-synth
snd-seq-virmidi 6912 1 snd-emux-synth
snd-seq-midi-emul 7776 1 snd-emux-synth
snd-seq-oss 31232 0
snd-seq-midi-event 7552 3 snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-oss
snd-seq 51024 8 snd-seq-midi,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-midi-emul,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event
snd-pcm-oss 51812 0
snd-mixer-oss 17952 2 snd-pcm-oss
snd-emu10k1 85508 2 snd-emu10k1-synth
snd-rawmidi 23616 3 snd-seq-midi,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-emu10k1
snd-pcm 93156 2 snd-pcm-oss,snd-emu10k1
snd-timer 24484 2 snd-seq,snd-pcm
snd-seq-device 8008 7 snd-seq-midi,snd-emu10k1-synth,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi
snd-ac97-codec 58148 1 snd-emu10k1
snd-page-alloc 11972 2 snd-emu10k1,snd-pcm
snd-util-mem 4448 2 snd-emux-synth,snd-emu10k1
snd-hwdep 8928 2 snd-emux-synth,snd-emu10k1
snd 52484 16 snd-seq-midi,snd-emux-synth,snd-seq-virmidi,snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-emu10k1,snd-rawmidi,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-seq-device,snd-ac97-codec,snd-util-mem,snd-hwdep
soundcore 9248 2 snd
af_packet 20520 2
ide-floppy 18752 0
ide-tape 34864 0
ide-cd 40548 0
cdrom 37184 2 sr_mod,ide-cd
floppy 59444 0
usbmouse 5216 0
joydev 10240 0
tsdev 7168 0
evdev 9504 0
usbkbd 6912 0
8139too 23712 0
mii 4992 1 8139too
nls_iso8859-1 3904 1
ntfs 85932 1
supermount 37876 1
intel-agp 17372 1
agpgart 31016 1 intel-agp
ppa 12296 0
parport_pc 32832 1
imm 12360 0
scsi_mod 114744 4 sg,sr_mod,ppa,imm
hid 53312 0
parport 38952 4 lp,ppa,parport_pc,imm
uhci-hcd 29104 0
usbcore 99132 6 usbmouse,usbkbd,hid,uhci-hcd
rtc 11576 0
ext3 110376 3
jbd 54328 1 ext3
===================================

Any help that anyone could provide would be GREATLY appreciated!

(By the way, the mic is muted, and I've check to make sure all the appropriate volumes are not muted via the volume control and alsamixer.)
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Posted 22 March 2004 - 09:54 PM

Are you sure that your ac97 on board sound is completely off? I have a soundblaster live, several years old, and it works fine. (It wouldn't work in MEPIS)
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Posted 22 March 2004 - 10:28 PM

I went into alsamixer and found a couple fields labeled 'ac97' something and I made sure those were turned all the way down/off.

Still no sound.

So I rebooted, double checked the ac97 settings were unchanged, and still no sound.

Any other suggestions?
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Posted 22 March 2004 - 10:50 PM

un-muted?

or try the oss driver.
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Posted 22 March 2004 - 10:53 PM

What I mean is that the ac97 on-board audio chip needs to be off in your bios. Two different audio chips playing around with drivers can be quite a headache. If Mandrake sees two audio devices, it will try to run both of them.
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Posted 22 March 2004 - 11:19 PM

Well, I didn't think I had on-board sound, but I will double check the BIOS anyway.

I'm new enough that I'm not sure I know what you mean by "try the OSS driver." Although I did see a lot of talk about OSS drivers in my search for a solution on the net.

(By the way, after reading something on the net, I did a
modprobe pcspkr
at the command line, and that was successful at allowing me to hear the lovely beeps out of the PC speaker. )
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Posted 23 March 2004 - 12:11 AM

Delete /etc/asound.state

Silly question...Did you save the settings after you adjusted alsamixer? Adjust then exit alsamixer and use the command alsactl store as root.

Check aumix and kmix settings.

Go to the KDE Control Center and make sure sound is enabled.

reboot or restart alsa

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Posted 23 March 2004 - 12:23 AM

I did just what you said, and it looks as though the settings are being stored.

I'm running GNOME, but when I typed 'kmix' from the command line, I got a ton of messages - most of them warnings, but the last few messages were the following:

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Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
kmix: ERROR: Alsa mixer cannot be found.
Please check that the soundcard is installed and the
soundcard driver is loaded.
kmix:
kmix: ERROR: Alsa mixer cannot be found.
Please check that the soundcard is installed and the
soundcard driver is loaded.
====================================

Does that help troubleshoot the problem at all?

And one other thing, in the Control Center, under the heading of "Uknown/Others" in the Hardware section is listed [SB Live! Value] Input Device Controller. And then in the information window, I see the following:

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Vendor: ‎Creative Labs
Bus: ‎PCI
Bus identification: ‎1102:7004:1102:1003
Location on the bus: ‎2:9:1
Description: ‎[SB Live! Value] Input device controller
Module: ‎unknown
Media class: ‎INPUT_OTHER
===========

Once again, any help is appreciated. Thanks for all of the suggestions so far.
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Posted 23 March 2004 - 01:16 AM

The input device controller is your joystick port on the sblive card. I have never used mine, so it is always "unknown". What kind of motherboard do you have? Perhaps a model number?

The alsa driver is "snd-emu10k" where as the oss driver is "emu10k". I use the latter driver.
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Posted 23 March 2004 - 01:49 AM

Motherboard information:

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Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4A, 2400 MHz (4.5 x 533)
Motherboard Name Dell Computer Corporation Dimension 8200
Motherboard Chipset Intel Tehama i850E
System Memory 512 MB (RDRAM)
BIOS Type Phoenix (09/13/02)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1
===============

Additional motherboard info:

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Motherboard

Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID <DMI>
Motherboard Name Dell Computer Corporation Dimension 8200

Front Side Bus Properties:
Bus Type Intel NetBurst
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 133 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 533 MHz
Bandwidth 4267 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type Dual RDRAM
Bus Width 16-bit
Real Clock 400 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 800 MHz
Bandwidth 3200 MB/s

Motherboard Manufacturer:
Company Name Dell Computer Corporation
Product Information http://www.dell.com
BIOS Download http://support.dell.com
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Posted 24 March 2004 - 12:11 AM

I guess the motherboard info didn't help any.

I knew it! SB Live sound card owners ARE screwed!
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Posted 24 March 2004 - 12:20 AM

that card happens to be one of the more 'supported' soundcards in linux. It works. Post your /etc/modules.conf file.
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Posted 24 March 2004 - 12:48 AM

Here are the contents of my /etc/modules.conf file:

probeall scsi_hostadapter imm ppa
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
alias eth0 8139too
above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
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Posted 24 March 2004 - 01:26 AM

I would edit it to say;
#above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
#alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
above emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1

put
emu10k1
in /etc/modprobe.preload

open a terminal>su to root>chkconfig alsa off>reboot
does it work? If not someone that actually uses that card will need to tell you what to have in modules.conf. I have a sb 16 pci. Or, you could google for how to use the oss driver.
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Posted 24 March 2004 - 01:38 AM

I thought that there was an issue with the SB Live card that come with the Dells. Something about the fact that the cards are actually not 100% SB Live cards (they use a different chipset). Or was this only with the audigy cards?
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